Projectors where 16.9 image size can be altered?

Murray

Established Member
Just wondering if any of the new projectors coming out have any form of adjustment to alter the image size to meet the edges of the black masking when using 720p?
Im not talking about aspect ratios, Im talking about the difference between the final size of the projected image on 576p to 720p.
When the image for 16.9 is setup to meet the edges of the black masking on 576p, it reduces when you change over to 720p (in most cases)
I know that this can be corrected with a scaler but wondered if the manufacturers had finally considered a top/bottom & L&R adjustment for DVD's when played in 720p?
Seems a simple thing to me to allow for some form of OVERSCAN adjustment to correct this when playing DVDs in 720p.
Any thoughts please?
 

PJTX100

Distinguished Member
On my PJ I use overscan for this exact thing when the input is via component, unfortunately overscan is greyed out for DVI - for which I end up adjusting the zoom and optical lens shift slightly to get the pic neatly aligned to the borders. In effect optical lens shift is the top/bottom & L/R adjustment you seek. And if I'm not mistaken all those tempting new D5 equipped PJ's all have optical lens shift...PJ
 

Murray

Established Member
PJTX100 said:
On my PJ I use overscan for this exact thing when the input is via component, unfortunately overscan is greyed out for DVI - for which I end up adjusting the zoom and optical lens shift slightly to get the pic neatly aligned to the borders. In effect optical lens shift is the top/bottom & L/R adjustment you seek. And if I'm not mistaken all those tempting new D5 equipped PJ's all have optical lens shift...PJ

Thanks for that info the only problem with that is one needs to climb up a ladder if its ceiling mounted like mine is. I also use DVI/HDMI and as you say the parts ones seeking are alway greyed out. Sometimes its not possible to even select 4.3 with some projectors when using DVI 720p, as the aspect ratios are very limited. I really find this a pain! :thumbsdow
 

AD Roser

Established Member
All SIM2 projectors have multiple aspect ratio control where you have 3 user settings where you can adjust height & width to your own personal taste. Also this means that if you wish to use a constant height anamorphic lens then you can use the user settings without the need of an external scaler.
 

Murray

Established Member
AD Roser said:
All SIM2 projectors have multiple aspect ratio control where you have 3 user settings where you can adjust height & width to your own personal taste. Also this means that if you wish to use a constant height anamorphic lens then you can use the user settings without the need of an external scaler.

Yes but sadly, the SIM projectors dont seem to be up there, with the new tech projectors out now with WOW FACTOR! :thumbsup:
 

NonPayingMember

Previously Liam @ Prog AV
Murray said:
Yes but sadly, the SIM projectors dont seem to be up there, with the new tech projectors out now with WOW FACTOR! :thumbsup:

:confused:

Last few Sims I saw had plenty of wow!!! Annoyingly long throw usually means they don't fit where I want to put them, but bags of wow factor!
 

PJTX100

Distinguished Member
Murray said:
Thanks for that info the only problem with that is one needs to climb up a ladder if its ceiling mounted like mine is.

Yes I can see that would be a pain! Mine is ceiling mounted, well beam mounted to be more precise, and is in reach.

I must confess that without a convenient way to do this I would be similarly annoyed. An offset and / or mis-sized pic is very distracting. It's now becoming a fundamental requirement to be able to make adjustments like this because different sources / input types seem to have slightly different sizes and positions. And it's only going to get worse.

...PJ
 

stevelup

Distinguished Member
Hi

Have you considered using the optical zoom to make the image slightly too big. This means you will be projecting onto the felt borders occasionally, but personally I find that less distracting than the underscan.

Steve
 

PJTX100

Distinguished Member
stevelup said:
Hi

Have you considered using the optical zoom to make the image slightly too big. This means you will be projecting onto the felt borders occasionally, but personally I find that less distracting than the underscan.

Steve

That's what I do. If Murray's PJ has zoom controllable from the remote then yes it's a good option, if like me it's a manual adjustment then it's back to square one 'caus he can't reach...PJ
 

Murray

Established Member
PJTX100 said:
That's what I do. If Murray's PJ has zoom controllable from the remote then yes it's a good option, if like me it's a manual adjustment then it's back to square one 'caus he can't reach...PJ

I have the Mitsubishi 900 and zoom is manual. The projectors with motorized zoom are very expensive. I wish the manufactures included this option especially for the people who do like to see a perfectly masked picture. :cool:
 

Knyght_byte

Distinguished Member
my overscan works i think on HDMI on my 7205.......regardless of which output i use from the DVD player.....

what annoys me is when i watch a proper widescreen film (say gladiator) you still get black bars...lol.....gotta find a way to border those films, some kind of wired felt maybe that i can slid up and down my screen....hmm...
 

Murray

Established Member
Knyght_byte said:
my overscan works i think on HDMI on my 7205.......regardless of which output i use from the DVD player.....

what annoys me is when i watch a proper widescreen film (say gladiator) you still get black bars...lol.....gotta find a way to border those films, some kind of wired felt maybe that i can slid up and down my screen....hmm...

What projector is the 7205? How old is it?
 

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