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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Building DIY' started by Smurfin, Sep 21, 2003.

  1. Smurfin

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    Well it's been 48 hours since I moved, and not only have I completely unpacked, but the conversion is in full swing.

    To say I'm knackered is an understatement, but hey, it's good fun:)

    This is the room as I found it yesterday morning....

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    Hmm nice hanging vegetables.....

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    Oh and the washing machine has to stay:eek:

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    And another view:

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    Hmm, now what have I let myself in for I wonder.

    Everything was ripped out in no time, and the empty shell looked something like this:

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    Hmm just how bad is that carpet?:eek: I didn't realise it was in such bad condition, will have to deal with that later...
     
  2. Smurfin

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    With the room cleared, a trip to Wickes later I came back bear lots of loft insulation, 2 x 2 batons, rockwool slabs, and various other bits and pieces.

    Helped by my housemate we set about constructing the studs. I'm decidedly crap at DIY, a thought that was reinforced as I took a chunk out of the wall with one of the pieces of timber:rolleyes:

    This will never be a load bearing structure (you don't say!)

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    The studs went in to suit the rockwool slabs, which were actually wider than I expected: rather than 600mm centres, the studs are slightly further apart (giving one narrower section at one end).

    A close-up of the slabs (note the chunk missing from the wall, bottom left of pic;)):

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    Framework complete, plus the first run of rockwool in:

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    And another one (are you bored yet?;))

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    Hmm, this is going well so far...
     
  3. Smurfin

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    As the stud wall is set 4" from the garage door (as I said in a previous post, the garage door is the weaklink in the room, sound travel is horrendous out into the street, and there's no "proper" wall there at the moment).

    In this void I'm packing loft insulation:

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    And yes, that IS me, although I look like I have no legs in that pic. Did I forget to tell you I'm a Jedi?;)

    Another shot of the loft insulation going in:

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    The insulation is packed in double runs to completely fill the space:

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    looks interesting..... cant wait to see what you're actually doing! lol

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    ps. are you wearing a short skirt!? :eek:
     
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    Bugger. Ran out of loft insulation, so I can't complete the wall properly. However, I cut the remaining pieces of rockwool to size, eased them gently into position and whe-hey! - stage 1 is almost complete!

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    The position of the horizontal batons might look out of proportion with the entire wall, the reason they went in at this height (rather than in the centreof the wall) is that it meant I minimised the amount of rockwool I had to cut down and its the bottom line of where my screen will be.
     
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    No they're shorts.;)
     
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    Well work had to halt on the screen wall due to the shortfall in insulation (and the fact that I can't get any plasterboard until this afternoon).

    So at around 10pm last night, it was decided that the painting should commence. And thus is began:)


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    Note the stance, imagine the sweep of the roller. Professionalism personified:D ;)
     
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    God did I really pick that colour?:eek: :eek: :eek:

    My housemate has dubbed the room "The Slaughterhouse"....but trust me, it dries much darker than it looks on the pics:)

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    Strangely enough, as soon as the word "SlaughterHouse" was in the air, during a tea-break at around 1am, the following appeared daubed on the floor:

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    2nd coat was finished @ 2am this morning. Looking good so far, by the end of tonight the aim is to do the following:

    * Change the strip light for some spots.
    * Finish the insulation, fix plasterboard to the studs then silicone seal it.
    * Mount carpet on the wall, ready for the screen.

    Then all of this little lot can go in:

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    I can't wait!:)
     
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    Wow - fantastic progress!!

    Looking forward to the rest of the pics by this evening.

    I'll be over on Tuesday when it's finished and up and runing ok? :D

    Gary.
     
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    Lights are in, screen wall including screen should be complete by around midnight tonight (ok read 3am;))
     
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    Smurf is clearly setting the ground for a new sport.... speed cinema! :D

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    Keep up the good work Smurf.

    Now, all you need is some decent kit:p


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    LOL:D
     
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    oh dear..... if his bank manager see you saying that you'll be in trouble!

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    Matt,
    That work in progress looks fantastic. I didn't realise the room was as small as it is. It should sound interesting when you get the two servos wired up.

    BTW I have a pile of discs waiting for you to get finished, so hurry up!;)
     
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    Looks good.

    Do you not need anymore cross noggins for fixing the plasterboard to, and reinforcing the wall?
     
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    Send em now, it'll be operational tomorrow:D
     
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    Sent you an email.;)

    Keep the photos coming, enjoying the thread.
     
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    Just wanted to say a big WOW looking good, not too sure about washing machine placement, maybe the street would be the better position! ;)

    Keep up the good work and good luck, by the way the more the photos the better :smashin:
     
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    I've just done some sound tests on the new room. Previously, if you were standing outside on the driveway you could hear people talking inside the garage...shouting could be heard across the road.

    With the new wall up, you can shout at the top of your head and only if someone has their ear up to the external garage door can they hear anything at all. Amazing stuff! :)

    As for the room....the carpet has just gone up on the screenwall, and the screen has been cut to size. Theres some last bits of touching up to do on the painting front, the screen itself needs sealing, then painting, then mounting, and finally beading needs adding to frame the sides. Then I just need to add the equipment before I come on here and moan about how poor the acoustics are....;)
     
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    bah!

    sheesh, aint you finished yet?

    That sucks!


    :D


    Sit down and have a beer mate.


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    I'm drinking on the job:D

    Actually I'm so knackered right now, the house looks like a bomb's hit it, as well as Speed Cinema (tm) I'm also playing the "How many rooms can I lose tools in?" game...there's crap everywhere:rolleyes:

    My housemate has also made a ceiling mount for my projector, which is fantastic - he made it from an old speaker bracket and the offcut from the screen:D

    Ahhh, tomorrow should be good fun:)

    I know what will happen though, as soon as the first film goes on I'll be fast asleep :suicide:
     
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    I'm sure all the tiredness will drain away once you fire up the system for the first time.

    Have you got room for a beer chiller in there?

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    LOL a beer chiller? The room is 7.5' x 16'....I have boiler, a washing machine, a sofa, a rack, 7 speakers and two servo 15s!:eek: :eek: I don't think I can fit anything else in somehow.....
     
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    Smurf,

    7.5 x 16............................. two servo 15s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    HOLY FCUK !!!!!


    I now know why that colour was chosen for the walls.............. the splatters from nose-bleeds will be easily hidden. My room is about the same size (13x8), and a single REL Storm (on loan from a friend :blush: ) does it verrry nicely on it's own !!

    You've done an ace job, btw - did a similar "speed cinema" myself when I got my movie room - start friday night, watching movies sunday afternoon !) It's very satisfying. Looking forward to seeing the finished article...................

    All the best,

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    Cheers Sean, speed cinema is great fun, but as you know its also tiring (probably worse because I just moved).

    Things have slowed down today. They went very slow on the A5 this afternoon with plasterboard and MDF strapped to the roof of a car:eek:

    Tonight I've been busy with the last few painting touches, I've also sealed the screen (MDF) ready for tomorrow. It's a shame the screen size has had to reduce (I had an 8' screen previously) but it still looks huge when held up on the wall:)

    Speaking of the wall, the carpet on this looks excellent. It's the cheapy £2.99 per sq metre stuff (from Carpet Right I think), really scraggy stuff (if it was in your living room) but perfect for use as a screen wall. It's dark grey, almost like the stuff you find lining car boots. And it's also very easy to apply with spray glue:)

    The only thing thats troubling me is that there is horrendous reverb in the room at present. I thought the screenwall carpet (which does cover the whole wall) would help tame things slightly, but it appears to have made no difference. I was on the phone to a friend earlier when I walked into the room - they asked me if I was in a hallway as I started to echo all of a sudden:(

    I think it will be a lively room, but then it's difficult to tell as half of the floor was covered in flattened cardboard boxes (not good I think as it would be reflective?), and obviously theres no equipment/huge rug/sofa in there at the moment. Tomorrow I guess I'll really see how good or bad it is.

    By midafternoon tomorrow I should have the screen decorated and mounted, the projector mounted on the ceiling, and touch wood I should be installing all of the hardware (the fun bit!)

    More pics tomorrow:)
     
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    Are you putting carpet on the floor? I seem to remember you weren't too impressed with what was there, so I guess you'll be changing it?

    I stuck carpet to the lower half of my sidewalls to further reduce any unwanted echo - for multi-channel surround you should aim for a dead screen wall (which you have now with the carpet) and dead walls below ear height for the other three. I used some cheap grey carpet and used thick wallpaper paste to glue it to the wall so it could be removed later if necessary. Tidy the edge with some form of battening strip or dado rail.

    Keep the upper walls and ceiling live.

    HTH

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    I've decided not to change it. So far the room has cost £200 and I'm not prepared to spend any more (this is a rented house). The carpet itself is in reasonable condition, it's just that it's so damn filthy. It will get a clean tomorrow, and I also have a huuuge rug which will cover most of the grubby bits anyway.

    I have a piece of carpet left over from the screen wall: I will probably have enough to wrap some sections (floor to ear height) around the side walls, but only just past the front soundstage. Not sure if that will help really. I can also squeeze a bit onto the rear wall.

    Am I better splitting it like this or doing A. just the back wall, B. do the side walls, and just cover them a little further into the room.

    I've got some polystyrene coving waiting in the wings (excuse the pun) to be used as fins, again not sure if they'll work well. I could do the fins on the side walls and carpet on the rear?

    Whichever I decide (and I need advice on this one!) I won't be adding any treatment until all of my equipment is in the room and I can hear how bad things are.

    Cheers
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    Dead right there, too late now but if I was to repeat the exercise I'd put up with the hassle of cutting more rockwool slabs and adding in another line of noggins. The wall is VERY solid (I'm surprised;)) but in hindsight the plasterboard could have been a little more rigid (although thats more to do with the vertical stud spacing than noggins - extra noggins would help though).

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and if someone else is looking at these pics thinking of their own {insert room of choice here} then I would recommend another row of noggins for additional support/sturdiness.

    I'm still chuffed though, my first ever "real" bash at DIY:)
     

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