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Progressive Scan Problems

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by 978345, Oct 21, 2001.

  1. 978345

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    I own a Cyrus DVD 7, it dosen't have progressive scan.
    I would like to know:
    1.) Will it really make a difference to the quality of the DVD playback
    2.) If so, is their an addon that I can put somewhere in my system to allow progressive scan
     
  2. Stuart Wright

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    A progressive scan image is much better quality than a non-progressive scan image.
    In order to display a progressive scan image, you need a plasma screen or an appropriate telly (I think only one model is available in the UK) or a capable video projector.
    You could put a scaler in between the output of your DVD player and the progressive scan display device mentioned above. A scaler converts the normal video signal into progressive scan.
    Such scalers include the iScan, the Vigatech and the Rock. See previous posts in the progressive scan forum.
    An alternative route is to replace your DVD player with a DVD ROM equipped PC. The picture you are watching on your PC monitor right now is progressive scan. Feed the VGA output into a video projector and use DVD player software such as Win DVD and you have a very high quality system.
    For more info on this see the HCPC forum.
     
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    I'm using my Cyrus DVD player in conjunction with my Sim 2 LCD H2 250 Front Projector. Is this progressive scan compatible. If so which scaler would you recommend? (Price isn't particuly relevent)
     
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    I don't know for sure whether the projector is P/S compatible, but I expect so. Put it this way, will it accept the input from a PC at 800x600 @ 72Hz? 1024x768 @ 72Hz will be better. If so, it will do progressive scan.
    The best scaler? Probably a Snell & Wilcox for around £20,000 (please correct me if I'm wrong).
    For less than £5,000 it would be The Rock from www.tawrock.co.uk

    [ 21-10-2001: Message edited by: Spectre ]
     
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    Hmmm
    I think that that is a bit too much money

    What other ones are their that are cheaper than The Rock?

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    Which is the best DVD Player with progressive scan?
     
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    No progressive scan DVD players output a decent image on a screen bigger than 5 feet. Or maybe 6 feet if your projector isn't very good.
    I'm not familiar with the alternatives, but if you read up on the 'Event' forum, there is some info there. Or ask in the video processing forum.
    Some people (like myself) choose to go the HCPC route - which is a very good image.
     
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    Luke,have you had a look at the Arcam DV88 £1300 or FMJDV27 £1600,they perform excellent in PGS.There is a cheaper scaler the ISCAN £750.00 which will work with your DVD.
     
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    Hi: The HT250 is currently working in progressive scan mode everytime you put it on. It's not an lcd projector but a DLP device. It has, built in, a de-interlacer(the bit which makes the image progressive) along with a scaler (the bit which changes the resolution from whatever comes in to the exact native resolution of the pixels inside the projector).

    The HT250 will accept many different types of progressive input signals through its component input and RGB inputs.

    The de-interlacing in the HT250 is most likely the biggest area you can get improvement with. By using a progressive scan DVD player with 2:2 and 3:2 recognition (DenonDVD2800, Arcam DV88 with proscan update and FMJ27 spring to mind) you can improve the image quite substantially with this projector IMHO. Using an HTPC will also have a similar effect.

    However as Spectre says using an off board scaler or de-interlacer will also work. One of these units will also help every source you plug through it. ie Sky and Video material too! By using a scaler with an XGA resolution output you will also be able to bypass the scaling inside the projector. This may also provide additional picture improvement.

    If you don't want to go for £5000 on a scaler you can try a Rock which is cheaper than that I believe, a Vigatec unit around £3500 a Quadscan Elite at £1200 or even just the humble but effective Iscan Pro (de-interlacer/not scaler) at £750. Each of these has it's good and bad points. Ideally you should view them in combination with your projector to see whether it makes a worthwhile improvement for your money.

    Hope this helps.

    Gordon
     
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    is their any good specialised interlasers that would go nicely with my ht-250?
    could i allow it to do the scaling itself and get a specialized interlacer to do the interlacing job.
    My system config:
    Cyrus DVD7 (No progressive scan)
    Sim2 HT-250 (6 foot screen)
     

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