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Processor & Power Amp for B&W Nautilus

Discussion in 'AV Pre-Amp/Processors & Power Amps' started by pidge22, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. pidge22

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    Hi,
    I have just put my speaker setup in place,B&W Nautilus 804's left & right,Htm2 centre and 805's surrounds.
    I have an Arcam avr 300 which I am very happy with but these Nautilus's need power so I am thinking of upgrading to a Processor/Power Amp but would appreciate any advice on which one's I have a limited budget after forking out on the speakers so I will have to consider used or xdemo but need something decent as I don't want to upgrade for some time.

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  2. Smurfin

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    Easy option is to plump for something like the parasound 1205 or if you can stretch - the 2205. Both can be had 2nd hand for good money, if you're patient.

    In terms of 2nd hand processors, you have Tags going very cheap now, or there's something like the Meridian 565/561/568.2, or the Lexicon MC-1/DC-2 etc etc

    Actually I'm getting ahead of myself, as there's a big difference in prices. What's your budget?
     
  3. pidge22

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    Thanks Smurfin,
    I was consideing the Lexicon Mc1 and Parasound 1205,the problem is that as I will look for the secondhand I will not be able to demo them with can you tell me what they would be like with stereo playback as I am trying to get the balance between Av & Stereo qaulity.
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    i would just look at getting a poweramp as the processor side of the AVR300 should be better than a lexicon MC1 and it will defiently be better in the feature department.

    This would also allow you to use the avr300 to drive your back speakers (2 center rears) while a poweramp could be used to drive the front 3 or 5. I too would recomend a halo poweramp. I added the A52 to my system and it made a world of difference to stereo and home cinema - the best upgrade i've ever made except for my sim2 :)

    with all the features of an already owned avr300; why do you need a processor?

    CaM
     
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    Err why exactly would that be? :confused:
     
  6. pidge22

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    I have seen a Parasound Halo A21 poweramp for sale that I may be able to buy and use for the fronts ,left & right,however I notice the output on these is 250watts at 8 ohms,the maximum the 804's can handle is 200 watts,will this damage my speakers particuarly if I Biamp with the Avr300?
    I do want to improve the sound on Stereo in particular so this A21 amp may satisfy my needs.
    Finally would I have a problem in trying to match the gain of the Avr 300 and the A21?
     
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    Your speakers would be fine with this poweramp. You would also have no gain issues.

    >> Err why exactly would that be???

    ok, i have no proof on that comment :)

    ....I'm only guessing on that one based on the fact that the mc1 is quite old now and the avr300 is a mid ranged modern av amp. There's probably nothing in it.

    CaM
     
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    Hi pidge22,

    You will be fine with 250W, I power my 803 rears with 300 Watts and they are rated at 50 - 250 Watts.

    Gaz
     
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    I'm looking to shift a Krell KAV250 A3 which would make an excellent match - its 3x250w and in a different league to Parasound.

    Paul
     
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    really, how much for the krell and how well do you think it would intergrate with my current A52?

    CaM
     
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    Pidge - I used to own Nautilus 805's and a HTM2 running off a Parasound C2 and an A51 power amp. Sounded very good to me and to the people who came round for a demo. I have just upgraded to Nautilus 804's and a HTM1 centre but havent had a chance to listen to them yet. Will report back. With 804's I would go for a 2205A etc and not the smaller 1205.

    By the way why did you decide to go with the HTM2 and not the HTM1 ?
     
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    How about starting with the Arcam P7 and use your AVR300 as a processor in the mean time. Then when you have more cash you can repalce the AVR300 with the AV8 or its successor when it comes out.
     
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    I have one of these and can confirm it is an awesome amplifier (it powers my 805 Signatures and HTM2.

    For my 2 rears I use a Rotel RB-03 (with CDM2SEs) and there are no integration issues that I can hear.

    I should point out that my system is biased towards 2 channel music and that is where the money has gone. If you are big into 5 channel music, then you may need something better for the 805s at the rear.
     
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    I finally decided to keep the Avr300 and have managed to buy an Arcam Fmj 35/3 3 channel power amp to biamp the Front's and Centre with the Avr300.The Power Amp's 100 watts per channel has made a big difference to the bass control and the mid range is much tighter.Their are no gain issues and the Receiver and power amp are perfectly matched, so for now I am happy until I can look at the Krell's etc. :thumbsup:
     
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    All's well that ends well.

    And, the Krell KAV250 A3 is still available!
     
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    so how much is the krell and do you know of any online reviews?

    CaM
     
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    I think the best choice you can do is a TAG AV32R as preamp with a Krell amplifier. It's a bomb and full sensuality.
     
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    I use almost exactly that for running my Nautilus 805s.....AV32R as the processor,and Krell KMA100's for the power.....excellent sound,plenty of control,and almost limitless reserve,which the Nautilus series do need,if the bass isn't going to suffer.
    Other good choices for Nautili include Bryston and Chord.
     
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    ......and Bel Canto Evo power amps go well with the 800 B&W.
     
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    my Krell KAV250/a3 is still available if anyone is interested?
     
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    If so,please place an ad in the classifieds with price.
     

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