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Discussion in 'AV Pre-Amp/Processors & Power Amps' started by Dougie Styles, Sep 13, 2003.

  1. Dougie Styles

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    Hi :)

    I am looking to buy a processor, but am confused by what is available.

    It will be used with a Rotel power amp and M&K speakers, almost exclusively to watch DVD's with occasional Sky TV. CD's may be played, but only once in a blue moon.

    I would like the option of DD EX and DTS ES although I only have amp and speakers for 5.1 at the moment.

    Tag's and Lexicon's have been suggested to me, but they seem to offer more than I would use and I could only afford second hand. Should I go for one of these, purely for quality, or would something like a Rotel 1066 be sufficient?
     
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    I'd say you've little reason to be shy of Second Hand purchasing - especially on the Classifieds forum, and a fair few bargain processors crop up on their on occasion, so don't steer away from them :).

    The Rotel RSP1066 is very good indeed, and - should you be dependent on buying something from new - I wouldn't hesitate in recommending it to you, it also (more than likely) meets all your requirements :)
     
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    If £1000 is your limit you're looking at a budget Tag AV30R or a 5.1 channel AV32R, both second hand.

    Or a Lexicon DC-2. IMO I would go for these rather than a Rotel. Even though the Rotel supports all of these new formats, I would rather have a better sounding, better decoding processing/bass management than a cheap (but new) processor.
     
  4. Dougie Styles

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    I was looking at 1,500 as my limit, but was wondering whether a second hand Tag or Lexicon would perform that much better than a Rotel.

    The extra cost of speakers and amplification for 7.1 would be approx 1,700. So getting a Rotel would put me 500 - 600 closer to that.

    I would like to stress however that quality will be my main consideration.
     
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    I really don't think much of Rotel processors. A mate had a Rotel 966, but a Denon AVD-2000 surpassed it in every way- he replaced the Rotel with the Denon after borrowing my AVD-2000 for a week. Lower noise floor, better processing. No hiss or hum (the Rotel did both)

    You can buy a MC-1 for £1500. Someone was selling one for £1200 on these forums- think it's gone now. Make sure it has version 4 of firmware.
     
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    Keep your eye open for some good deals on Meridian 568's.
    (series 1 - not the .2 version)
    With the introduction of the G series from Meridian, you'll find that there will be some good bargains to be had.

    A 568 will outgun a Lex MC-1 and TAG AVR32.

    Meridian make great dual purpose (movies & music) machines.

    The Lex & TAG are nice too.

    Spligs.
     
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    Second hand Lexicon MC-1 would be your best bet (IMO) if movies are your main priority. If you wish to use it for music as well then a second hand Meridian 568 mk I would be ideal (although you'll have to be lucky to find one for £1500).
     
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    I would definitely go for a secondhand Tag or Lexicon,and Spligsey's suggestion is an excellent choice also....in the end,which you choose will come down to which sounds best to you,but all would be a better choice from the sound quality viewpoint,and certainly from the Tag and Meridian standpoint,upgradeable also.
     
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    What everyone has said....go for a 2nd hand Tag/Lexicon/Meridian.

    That's what I did, bought a Lexicon DC-2 for a snip of what they used to cost. And muchos pleased I am too:) Bloody marvellous....
     
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    My requirements were much the same as yours, 99% DVD usage.

    In the end, I went for a second hand Lexicon MC-1 from the classifieds here, which I'm using with Rotel Amps (1075 + 1070) and M&K speakers (S85s + SS150s). You don't get DTS ES or PL2, but Logic 7 more than makes up for that. Version 4 software does have DD EX though.

    Absolutely stunning with movies.
     
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    Chips, am pleased you are enjoying the MC-1.
     
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    :smashin: Thanks Marc :cool:.

    By the way, as I upgraded from an Onkyo 989 which had DTS ES, THX Ultra 2 and PL2 I was a little concerned that I would miss these formats. That has not been the case ;). Logic 7 really is superb.
     
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    2nd that, L7 was surprisingly good. Had it when I had a HK amp.
     
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    As you said for movies it really can't be beaten for £1500....

    I have now got my Krell kit - very impressive indeed. No more upgrading for the time being for me!
     
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    Chips- how come I haven't read any comments on yer MC-1?

    Maybe just add some to my MC-1 thread?

    Marck. Can you give me your address and when your house will be empty. Hmm tasty! I'll leave the Rel Q200 though. :p Do you think I'll get all the stuff on a motorbike? :rotfl:
     
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    Suppose I should really since it was your thread which pushed me in the MC-1 direction, thanks Nathan :). I'll try to put some thoughts together.
     
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    Not sure about the address - however if you want to swap my sub to the Martin Logan Descent please feel free....
    :D
     
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    I believe it has a 7.1 mode.

    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_4_3/meridiandts.html

    Might be worth doublechecking though.:)
     
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    FYI, there are currently three Meridian 561s on UK's Ebay at the moment and one 568.

    I just bought a mint 561 for what I think was a snip at £1,100 and it's blown me away even though the rest of my kit really doesn't do it justice.

    What has astonished me most is what the Meridian is able to do with vanilla stereo, particularly off NICAM TV.

    The 561 is of course limited to 5.1 analogue outputs and 7.1 is only available if you use a pair of Meridian's DSP speakers :D, but the 568 can do 7.1 analogue out.

    HTH,
    Joel
     

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