Problems with Philips 9000SA

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  1. Mister K

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    Hi all, first post in this forum!

    I have just bought a Philips 9000 DVD player and hooked it up to my Benq 8700+ front projector via HDMI to DVI.

    I get a really great picture at 720p but I see some minor stuttering in pans. Very annoying!

    I noticed that my projector indicates a 60 Hz signal, despite PAL being 50 Hz and maybe that is what causes the stutters?

    I have set the DVD to PAL but that doesn't help.

    Any suggestions on how to force the payer to output 50 Hz? :lease:

    Best regards,

    Kenneth
     
  2. Nic Rhodes

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    are you sure this is a player issue, could be the projector just converts everything to 60 Hz?
     
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    Hi Nic,

    To be honest I don't know.
    Both DVD and projector are speciefied to handle PAL / 50 Hz.

    How can I find out?
     
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    How about sending a standard PAL resolution and see if the pj recognises that as 50Hz?

    I'll go and have a look at the settings in my DVP9000 to see how I've got things set up - my AE700 definitely recognises a 50Hz signal.
     
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    Mark, that would be most appreciated!

    /Kenneth
     
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    :mad: Mark, My Benq indeed shows a 50 Hz signal in 576p...but I now gt a confirmation that 8700 cannot sync to 50Hz in 720p or 1080i.

    Wonder whether I should keep the player and stick to 576p or return it and buy a new screen instead.

    /Kenneth
     
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    Hi Kenneth.

    Sorry, I haven't had a chance to check things yet - but do you think this means that the "problem" is with your pj, or is it something the Philips is doing? I mean, will any upscaling DVD player create the same situation do you think?
     
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    Mark,

    The answer I got on AVSforums is that ANY player wil cause this..ie the problem is with the Benq.
     
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    Sorry to hear that - it must be very frustrating :(
     
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    Indeed!

    I'm considering returning the Philips, although it seems to be a fine player.
     
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    You don't fancy a firmware change on your Benq then :eek:

    Alternatively, you could do what I did... sell all your region 2 DVDs (the Pal speedup was killing me!) and buy only NTSC movies :devil:

    I like the Philips, despite its foibles - it's just so annoying that you can't utilise the 720p @ 50Hz... although having said that, I wonder how good the scaler is in the Benq? It might be that by using HDMI in the Philips and outputting 576p the image would be virtually identical/preferable to using the DVD player's 720p/1080i output? That isn't the case for me - it seems that the player's scaler is preferable to the AE700's, but what with the 8700+ being that more expensive/upmarket it could be that using 576p may produce the better image anyway!? That is assuming that the Benq's scaling is bypassed when receiving a 720p signal. :)
     
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    From my brief tests I find the quality of 576p over HDMI to be better then s-video but it's a lot softer then 720p.

    Maybe some tweaking of the sharpness can take care of that.

    AFAIK, Benq does not have a firmware update for 8700.

    /Kenneth
     
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    Have you tried setting TRUELIFE to +1... or maybe +2? That definitely sharpens things up.

    Re firmware - I read yout thread over on AVS - I meant changing to Runco (?) firmware! ;) I don't think I'd have the nerve!!
     
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    Just had a thought - what happens if you set the DVD player to output an NTSC (60Hz) signal with a Pal DVD? Would the DVD player convert Pal to NTSC and therefore eliminate the judder? Or is that just me having wishful thinking?
     
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    Interesting!

    Gonna try that tonight!
     
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    This fairly common with these inputs I am afraid. DVI as you have seen is NOT the same as DVI. :(
     
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    Eh? :confused: :D
     
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    Many struggle with 50hz and being addressed at resolution at all frequencies ;)
     

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