Problems making a copy of a DVD for back-up purposes

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  1. josswallace

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    I am trying to bur a back up copy of a film I want to make sure I can keep. I have not burnt any films before, but I appear to be able to get past the protection but when I try to burn the DVD it appears that the total file size is 2 to 3 times bigger than my DVD. I am a complete novice at this so any pointers in the right direction, appropriate information sources to read, would be greatly appreciated.n
     
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    I'm sorry. This is piracy and we cannot discuss such matters here.
     
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    Whilst I'm surprised Mod didn't close this thread;
    I'm sure it won't hurt to say that commercial discs are pressed not recorded, and that they are dual-layer so can be upto 8.5GB capacity (DVD9). You can buy dual-layer recordable discs, most modern burners can use them but they are (last time I looked) disproportionately more expensive than single-layer 4.7GB (DVD5) discs.
    There is software which can recode video to a higher compression (and remove unneeded features eg. language options) so that the same running-time can be fitted onto the lower-capacity DVD.
     
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    Please take care. The above post is sailing 'close to the wind'

    I did not close this thread in case there were matters arising which the OP may wish to raise... or other ways in which they could be assisted.


    To forum members in general:

    On the issue of 'piracy': There are cases where 'illegitimate copying' can be argued to be morally justifiable and cases where it clearly cannot... However, the argument is irrelevant, as the forum has a clear policy about this issue in order to protect itself, and it is set out in the rules which all members have agreed to.

    Let me take the opportunity to display it here as a refresher:

    Piracy

    The AVForums does not condone or promote piracy of any kind. This specifically includes piracy of

    * video material (copying DVDs or HDTV encoded movies via the internet)
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    Why do we take this position? Because doing the above is theft. It's illegal.

    Whether or not you agree with file sharing and whether or not you agree with the ways the big corporations try to combat this 'problem', you may not post anything on these forums which can be interpreted by our moderators as directly promoting piracy.

    To give some examples:

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    I have asked moderators to remove any such posts from the AVForums.

    There are some grey areas. Can people talk about equipment which amongst other functions, can be used to copy copyrighted material? The answer depends on the context of the discussion.

    Specifically with regard to certain interconnects which remove macrovision and are perfectly legal to buy and use provided their use does not infringe copyright. If the discussion focuses on their use to circumvent Macrovision specifically to enable copying then the discussion is not appropriate. If the discussion focuses on their use to circumvent Macrovision to solve a display problem caused by Macrovision on certain display devices then the discussion is ok.

    What has prompted this clarification of the piracy rules at the AVForums?

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    * The level of discussion of piracy has risen in general. We have always tried to be 'friends' with everyone including the AV enjoying public, the retailers selling them kit, the manufacturers and distributors providing the kit and the studios, marketing companies and everyone else involved in producing the movies, TV, games and music we enjoy so much.

    You may be interested to know that many representatives of studios, big named manufacturers, respected technical boffins, writers and editors visit these forums. They usually don't post because they prefer not to. Or perhaps are desperate to but corporate company policy prevents them. Still, by openly discussing piracy you may well be alerting people to your actions who you might prefer didn't know what you are up to.

    In conclusion, for our benefit and your benefit, please do not post anything which promotes piracy. It'll only get deleted by a moderator.
     
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    :oops:I appreciate that is the case. I posted only for "information" and explicitly avoided linking to or naming anything that would assist in piracy.
    Specifically the OP needed an explanation as to why the ripped data occupied more space than is available on blank DVDs in his possession.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    I specifically made no request for information regarding by passing the protection, I am really only interested in how to deal with the larger than my DVD file size. It is obviously a tricky area as I have been informed that to copy a DVD for backup purposes is not an illegal act.......I have no idea whether bypassing the protection in order to make a backup copy is illegal.
     
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    As said, it does not really matter what the legal situation is.
    It just happens to be a given of the rules of this forum... so we have to tread vary carefully around these matters... and it is difficult to be of assistance without contravening those given rules.

    Had you never mentioned bypassing the protection, and that you were simply trying to get material that was too big to fit onto a DVD it would have been much easier to assist.
     

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