Problem with Binary Domain and DTS-Connect

[foumfo]

I have a mobo with onboard chipset AD1988b that supports DTS Interactive(Connect). I also have a Lg HT805PH that doesnt support DTS but I found a way to enable it (through a hack). I have complete support of DTS multichannel audio (from DVD's and mkv's) now. Also true surround sound now works for Skyrim too. Awesome But the two other games I've tested (Binary Domain & Metro 2033) present a problem: only the 2 frontal speakers work and they output the exact same sound. What could I do to fix it?

To further add, Left 4 Dead 2 has true surround too.

 

[EndlessWaves]

DTS interactive is limited to 48Khz/24bit/6 channels (5.1) according to wikipedia (The DTS site itself is rubbish) so if you've set those games higher then that may be causing the problem.

 

[foumfo]

DTS interactive is limited to 48Khz/24bit/6 channels (5.1) according to wikipedia (The DTS site itself is rubbish) so if you've set those games higher then that may be causing the problem.

First of all, in the spdif properties and the formats tab, I've ticked only 44.1 and 48 khz.
And if those games were set at a higher bitrate than 48khz, would there be sound then?
Is there any way to check what output a game has?

 

[EndlessWaves]

I was thinking more of the 5.1 setting rather than it being set to 7.1 as some programs offer.

I take it you've got the latest motherboard drivers?

 

[foumfo]

I was thinking more of the 5.1 setting rather than it being set to 7.1 as some programs offer.

I take it you've got the latest motherboard drivers?

I do have the latest drivers. I've done some research: the Ps3 back cover of Binary Domain has the DTS surround logo. the xbox360 doesnt (and presumably the pc version too). Do you think thats the problem?

 

[EndlessWaves]

I do have the latest drivers. I've done some research: the Ps3 back cover of Binary Domain has the DTS surround logo. the xbox360 doesnt (and presumably the pc version too). Do you think thats the problem?

I doubt it, from what I know of DTS interactive it takes the game's standard output (PCM) and compresses it rather than being an API/Library that the game needs to specifically support.

I don't know how the PS3 works but given the logo I'd guess it either waits for the game to enable the built in encoder or leaves it all up to the game to implement it's own version rather than exposing it to user control or doing it for all 5.1 out the S/PDIF.

So the games are set to 6 channel sound and you've got the latest drivers. So it's a case of finding out what's downmixing them to 1/2 channel sound between the game and the output.

Have you got Windows Vista/7? Vista introduced a lot of good new audio stuff so if you're still in XP things may work differently.

I take it you've tried disabling all other audio processing technologies in the Soundmax control panel?

 

[RottenFox]

I do have the latest drivers. I've done some research: the Ps3 back cover of Binary Domain has the DTS surround logo. the xbox360 doesnt (and presumably the pc version too). Do you think thats the problem?

Xbox 360 doesn't do DTS for games, DD5.1 only, well, apart from Prototype, with DTS Neural, which was rubbish.

 

[foumfo]

So the games are set to 6 channel sound and you've got the latest drivers. So it's a case of finding out what's downmixing them to 1/2 channel sound between the game and the output.

As I think I said, its only 1 channel coming from the 2 frontal speakers. Not L/R.

Have you got Windows Vista/7? Vista introduced a lot of good new audio stuff so if you're still in XP things may work differently.

I have Win7 64bit.

I take it you've tried disabling all other audio processing technologies in the Soundmax control panel?

In the Soundmax cp you get to choose only one audio processing technology
(Sonic Focus & DTS Connect). So yes, I have only DTS Interactive enabled.
There's also another option inside the DTS Connect menu, the DTS NeoC but I never enable it.

 

[foumfo]

I just tested Mass Effect 1. The same, only one channel output.
And I also tested Mass Effect 3. I seemed to have surround sound but there was something wrong about the front channels, I couldn't hear all speaches. But nevermind that, we need to focus on the games with the true problem

Also another test with LA Noire. Worked like a charm but there was still something wrong with the front channels.

 

[foumfo]

So, anyone?

 

[foumfo]

anybody?

 

[EndlessWaves]

I don't know enough of the system to guess at what it could be, I can only suggest things to try in case that narrows it down.

What about setting everything to Stereo and turning DTS interactive off, will that reproduce correctly or does it still give you one channel duplicated over two speakers?

 

[foumfo]

Still the same thing

 

[foumfo]

I don't know enough of the system to guess at what it could be, I can only suggest things to try in case that narrows it down.

What would you need to know?

 

[EndlessWaves]

What would you need to know?

Sorry, I meant the windows audio system rather than your PC.

S/PDIF only outputting one channel duplicated when everything is set on stereo is interesting though as it suggests it's nothing to do with the DTS settings at fault.

I take it Windows does show L R for the jack information as well as listing 2 channel default formats on the advanced page for the S/PDIF out audio device properties? Does the Test button next to default formats play sound on one channel and then the other or on both at once?

 

[foumfo]

I take it Windows does show L R for the jack information as well as listing 2 channel default formats on the advanced page for the S/PDIF out audio device properties? Does the Test button next to default formats play sound on one channel and then the other or on both at once?

Testing DTS plays sound on all speakers while testing DTS Connect plays two different front channels. Not all in one like in video games. I dont think you can change the output format of spdif. Its only 2-channel

 

[eiren]

Game is probably broken then.

 

[foumfo]

But its not only one game, others dont work too and others work just fine.

 

[EndlessWaves]

Testing DTS plays sound on all speakers while testing DTS Connect plays two different front channels. Not all in one like in video games. I dont think you can change the output format of spdif. Its only 2-channel

I meant the test button on the advanced tab but it's likely to give the same results are those.

It does sound like something is interfering with the libraries the game is using. If it was media players doing this I'd be pointing the finger firmly at DirectShow codecs but generally DirectSound and XAudio2 are the ones touted as designed for games and AFAIK neither are based on DirectShow.

You could try re-running the latest DirectX and OpenAL installers and perhaps have a look around with the (DirectShow) Codec Tweak Tool here and see if you can see anything obviously garbled or wrong.

 

[foumfo]

I meant the test button on the advanced tab but it's likely to give the same results are those.

Thats what I meant

You could try re-running the latest DirectX and OpenAL installers and perhaps have a look around with the (DirectShow) Codec Tweak Tool here and see if you can see anything obviously garbled or wrong.

Tried everything, no luck. I was wandering, could I use ffdshow audio decoder with the video game? I used to use it for mkvs with dts sound. I transformed the dts to dolby on-the-fly.

 

[EndlessWaves]

Tried everything, no luck. I was wandering, could I use ffdshow audio decoder with the video game? I used to use it for mkvs with dts sound. I transformed the dts to dolby on-the-fly.

Only if the game uses DirectShow.

 

[foumfo]

Only if the game uses DirectShow.

And how can I learn that?

 

[EndlessWaves]

You could try process explorer, that'll give you a list of dlls the program is using so you could see if the problem games have any audio files in common that all of the working games lack.

I believe the main DirectShow dll is quartz.dll, although the description should say DirectShow.

 

[foumfo]

You could try process explorer, that'll give you a list of dlls the program is using so you could see if the problem games have any audio files in common that all of the working games lack.

I believe the main DirectShow dll is quartz.dll, although the description should say DirectShow.

I downloaded it but it wont show the dlls.
No wait, it actually does, in a second part of the window. what should I be looking for? It shows files, events, keys and threads

 

[EndlessWaves]

I downloaded it but it wont show the dlls.
No wait, it actually does, in a second part of the window. what should I be looking for? It shows files, events, keys and threads

Sounds like it's set to handles rather than dlls by default, go into view>lower pane view>dlls