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Princess Mononoke - anime

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by raigraphixs, Jul 26, 2002.

  1. raigraphixs

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    Hi,

    Has anyone watched 'he animated 'Princess Mononoke' (1999), its very interesting and enjoyable.

    Highly recommended.


    Has this director, done anything similar.?

    rai
     
  2. Delorian

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    I have to say, I didn't think PM was all it was cracked up to be. I have it on video & found is fairly pointless and more than a little mad. You expect the mad bit from Manga but I certainly don't think this is the best Manga pic ever, like some ppl on Amazon have said.

    When I was younger I saw 3X3 Eyes and that was fairly amazing. Also I think there was something called The Legend of the Four Kings, or something like that. Very good also. I think I just prefer the more nitty-gritty killing and magic type stuff than talking animals. I would recommed Street Fighter II: Animated, that rocks. The others I mentioned come in many parts so they'd be expensive to buy.

    I don't know anything else that director has done, but I think he/she is famous. I'm sure NeoBlade may know, I have a feeling he is well versed in Anime...
     
  3. Rambo John J

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    Hayao Miyazaki's most well known stuff in the west would probably be Space adventure Cobra and Castle of Cagliostro both of which play quite regularly on UKs sci-fi channel, and both of which are about as underwhelming as Princess Mononoke.

    Check out Mamoru Oshii's (Patlabor, Ghost in the shell etc) live-action movie Avalon instead. A visual feast that only a crazy Jap brain could come up with. One of the best films of the last couple of years IMHO.
     
  4. PoochJD

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    Delorian,

    I think one of the reasons you may not like it, is because I suspect you have probably only watched the American dubbed version, and not the original Japanese edition.

    If you can, watch it in Japanese, with English subtitles, as it is a great anime, albeit quite complex to understand. Admittedly, it's not the best anime film to just sit down and watch with a beer (or whatever other beverage you prefer), as you need to know quite a bit about Miyazaki (the director) and also Japanese history and mythology as well.

    If you want to watch something much less cerebral, but still entertaining, try going for:

    "Dominion Tank Police: Acts 1-4"
    "Bulletproof: Gunsmith Cats"
    "Project A-Ko"
    "My Neighbour Totoro"

    All are excellent titles, and well worth your time. If you're a braver person, then you could always try the following, which will entertain, but DO require a fair whack of intelligence as well:

    "Akira"
    "Ghost In The Shell"
    "Perfect Blue"

    Hope this helps.

    Pooch
     
  5. Delorian

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    Thanks for the advise. I've never watched anime with subtitles, although I have to have my martial arts that way I always thought anime would be too fast moving with too much dialog. May give it a go.

    I saw Akira when I was young and found it over-complex. Bought it recently but haven't watched it yet. Can't wait, think I'll appreciate it alot more now.

    Saw Ghost in the Shell. Baffled by it's crazyness. Seemed there was no point to it at all. Heard of Perfect Blue, my cousin who is big into the whole genre, saw it in a cinema. Mentioned rape and violence. Sounded... I dunno, crazier than G in the S.

    What do you think of 3X3 Eyes and that 4 Kings, if you saw 'em?
     
  6. PoochJD

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    Hi Delorian,

    Both "Akira" and "Ghost In The Shell" make more sense, the more often you watch them. When I watched them both the first time around, I enjoyed them, but - like you - found them rather baffling. However, like I say, upon repeated viewings, they do come together and work... honest! :D

    "Perfect Blue" is one of the best anime films ever. It's actually a very dark, psychological thriller about an ex-pop singer who turns to acting, only to find her "soul" doesn't like her new profession, and keeps trying to screw with her head! It's extremely complex, but boy is it an ace movie! Again, it may not make much sense first time around, but the more you watch it, the more the little nuances begin to make themselves known, and the more you can begin to piece together what is "real" and what is "fiction".

    Yes, there is one minor rape scene, but it's not rape in the real sense of the word. Without placing huge spoilers up, when the lead actress is seen filming a rape scene for a TV series she stars in, that's what your friend is actually referring too. Hence, in essence, no rape is actually depicted, but it is simulated for the cameras, for the TV show she is making. Like I say, it's complex, but I would highly recommend it.

    Pooch
     
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    Just finished watching Jin-Roh Wolf Brigade....... very good manga film, quite slow but has excellent story telling and character building.

    Vampire Hunter D is a good action flick. Same goes for Fist of the North Star (although it is beginning to show its age :) ).

    Wicked City is a great horror manga.

    It is also worth looking at Ninja Scroll for some nice action.

    Next manga film I need to go buy is Metropolis. And yes subtitles are the way forward!!!

    Try to spy out Neoblade on the forums, he is a huge Manga nut and can offer good advice on what films to pursue.
     
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    I would also recommend Jin Roh - Very good movie but slow and intelligent - you really need to have your brain switched on.
    Others i would recommend are
    Cowboy beebop - A fantastic series full of action and comedy a very big hit in japan a few years back
    Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust - a Great sequel to the original full of action
    Record of lodoss war - the best Sword and scorcery anime around
    La Blue Girl - Very Hentai - But bloody funny - Lots of porn , Demons , Ninja girls - Warning its very strong not for the easily
    shocked.
    Also while its not anime i would recommend the Live action movie
    Avalon made by Mamoru Oshii who did Ghost in the shell, Patlabor
    etc . Its almost a live action Ghost in the shell - with some great sfx
     
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    Other Quality animes to watch ...

    Rurouni Kenshin (I think I spelt that right my Romaji isnt too hot, gomen) Or Samurai X as it was in America.

    and Fushigi Yugi. This is superb. I think it was aimed at girls primarily but its a wonderul Anime and if you refuse to watch it because of that, more fool you!!

    Dave
     
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    I recommend Blood: The Vampire and Macross Plus, just bought
    Metropolis and have watched about half of the film so far. Good animation.
     
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    I am trying out a bit of anime, too: have Princess Mononoke, and Perfect Blue so far, Akira is on order (delivery just confirmed today :) ).

    PM is a bit, unusual, in the way that a Westener might not understand it and thus rate it negatively (in the same way this happended to Final Fantasy) but I did enjoy it.
    Perfect Blue is as Pooch says a thriller and not only needs some intelligence ;) but also your attention. The drawing style is pretty simple but the story is IMHO quite good though I had to watch it a couple of times to understand it. It can be very confusing indeed.

    Oh, that reminds me that I do have Ghost in the Shell, too. My favorite of the ones mentioned.
     
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    Is Avalon worth getting imported from Japan for £30?http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBJ-867 I'm guessing the sound is in Japanese, but the VHS release (also on that site) has one for Jap dubbed and one that says "other" language so I wonder if it's in english or something? are there any plans for a US/UK release? I quite liked Metropolis.
     
  13. Rambo John J

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    Avalon was filmed in Poland, in Polish, by Oshii. I know they did a Jap dub, so I'd imagine the "other language" is the original Polish audio.
    There's a region 3 disc available in the Japanese section at www.dddhouse.com for around £7 plus shipping, in Polish with English subs. Should be on your doormat for about a tenner.

    Avalon's international rights have been picked up by Miramax, but so far they don't know how to handle it. I'd imagine they'll do an English dub and possibly re-edit it to try and appeal to a broader audience, but that would just murder it. Can't see them being happy with just an arthouse theatrical release though
     
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    I'm always suspicous about chinese DVD suppliers, does DDDHouse sell bootlegs or originals?
     
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    cybersoga
    DDDhouse are an official HK suppiler - They dont sell bootlegs.
    I would highly recommend them - Thats where i got my dvd of Avalon from - Along with about 40 other dvds. Super quick delivery
    usually 7 days and great prices
     
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    OK, thanks, i'll give it a go!
     
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    Miyazaki is the finest animator in the world. He did not direct Space Adventure Cobra. His latest film is called Spirited Away. He has a studio called Studio Ghibli which also produces work by other animators. His best films are Kiki's Delivery Service(released on very high quality VHS tape in the U.S.A. by Disney), My Neighbour Totoro, Nausica of the Valley of the Wind(which he also drew as a comic strip- published in U.S.A. by Viz comics and available from specialist comics retailers), Porco Rosso and the stunning Laputa. Princes mono was the begining of a deal with Disney which fell through for some reason. There is a British book on his work written by Helen McCarthy called H Miyazaki, Master of Ainmation. His other releases are available on Japanese dvd s which I think have either english subtitles or dubbing. They can be purchased from United Publications- let me know if you want contact details. You won't regret buying anything by Miyazaki.
     

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