Premiere HD delayed

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  1. pietnoeck

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    Due to delivery/production problems PremiereHD has been delayed 2 weeks to the begining of december.
    Philips, Pace and Humax have problems in supplying a sufficient amount of MPEG4/DVB-S2 STB's (read none are available).
    Only in the second half of january larger amounts are expected.

    There goes my christmas gift !!!!!!!!!!! :(
     
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    Talk to these people www.homecinema.ch and you will have your xmas prezzie. :smashin:
     
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    But do they have them in stock ????
     
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    No one has stock as yet contact them and they will reserve one for you and confirm it via e-mail, the point is that this was reported on satplaza about a week ago so it's not news to some premere HD as well as other providors are going to make sure there are stock availible in the austrian/swiss/german markets first thats where the problem lies. :D

    There are MPEG2 HDTV Recievers already in the market ie Qauli TV etc, i have now heard that despite news that these receivers will have to be replaced a Modification can be done to enable MPEG4 AVC H264 decoding which is good news as i own a QS1080IRCI, i use it on component output to a Hitachi 32LD7200 and the results are stunning as it was previously on my 37PD5200. :eek:
     
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    But it also has to be DVB-S2 compliant, so the present receivers like the Quali or the Inverto are useless as everybody is going DVB-S2.
     
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    Not so read the post again, i have had information that the present Qauli TV receivers can be modified either via software and/or hardware makes sense really as there are quite a few out there. :smashin:


    Ohhhhhh BTW have you got a HDTV reciever ? if so which one. :rotfl:
     
  7. pietnoeck

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    a skystar 2 in a HTPC, very cheap !!!
     
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    Better throw it away now then as it's not MPEG4 DVB S2 compliant, :thumbsdow and DVB S2 cards will not be availible anytime soon when they are they will not be cheap any how nice to speak to you again other than on IRC?. :hiya:


    PS: since replying here i have been notified via e-mail that a austrian dealer has taken delivery of the DSR9005 philips x 25 and 12 PDH1000 Humax's one of which is mine, the others are probaly already spoken for see ya. :eek:
     
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    Are you guys sure you will be able to receive PremHD in the UK?
    Having read a few German AV mags it sounds like the DVBS2 footprint will be very focused over Germany,Austria and Switzerland.

    Regarding the size of SkyHD´s footprint does anyone know if I will be able to pick it up here in Düsseldorf like regular Sky?
     
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    the SS2 is mpg4 compliant but not DVB-S2.
     
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    Sort of correct.
    The SS2 tuner certainly can't cope with DVB-S2 and nor can any PCI tuner card that I am aware of.
    DVB-S2 tuner ICs or chipsets only recently became available and all production is going into settop boxes for the moment.

    The MPEG2 / MPEG4 / H264-AVC side isn't a function of the tuner ; that decoding is done by whatever codec you chose to run on your PC.
    In other words DVB-S2 is a channel coding standard for the physical layer.
    The compression codec standard used is immaterial as the cards themselves are "video coding agnostic".

    Chris Muriel, Manchester.
     
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    Oh yes ? So we have to send them back to be modified but how much do you know ?
     
  13. pietnoeck

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    Don't count on it !
     
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    Sat1 and Pro7 started their official HD simulcasts on 26 October as planned. You can view the new fangled MPEG4/DVB-S2 version on Astra 19.2 12.441 V (FEC9/10) symbol rate 27500 and a there is also a temporary MPEG2/DVB-S version on Hotbird 16 East at 11.148 V 13020 symbol rate (it says) and FEC 3/4.

    Both are 1080i/25 with AC3 sound.

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    Hotbird is 13 east. I assume that is what you meant. Thanks for the information on the frequency and symbol rate
     
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    Oops I was wrong on the name but right on the bird - it is 16 East but should be Eutelsat (although they look after Hotbird too).

    However I've had a look and it's not there with that unusual symbol rate or more normal 27500. The article in German did say they were unsure how long the 16 East transmissions would last - I suspect it was just for the "Munich Media Days" show when the launch took place - and enabled people to see the luanch with current sets until new MPEG4 receivers hit the market. The piece I have is from 26 October. I agree that if they were going to keep a dual illumination in place in MPEG2 then 13 East would make more sense.

    I can't check the Astra 19.2 as that is in DVB-S2 - can't see anything with my poor old Echostar setup.... :(

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