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PREDATOR 1 & 2 (Region 2)

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by thestorm, Jul 20, 2001.

  1. thestorm

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    Hi

    I own the Predator 1&2 limited edition box set (region 2):
    http://www.play247.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=93033

    It's been AGES since I watched these movies until I got the DVD's.

    But could anyone tell me if they film have been cut in anyway from the original release?
    Cuz i heard that "Century Fox" tend to cut UK R2.

    Cya,
    Shaz
     
  2. Confucius

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    A cut 'n' paste from UK DVD Cuts List- Cuts to 'Predator'

    Thanks to Luis Canau, I have a (hopefully) complete list of cuts to Fox's 'Predator' DVD. Note that the BBFC passed this video uncut, and no mention is made of any pre-cuts.

    First of all though, this is the official statement from Fox UK regarding this disc release:-

    "With the UK being one of the later territories to release this DVD, we have shared disc masters with other regions. Please note that these edits are minimal and do not in any way deter from the quality and value of the release"

    OK, now read on...!

    23:43 - Dutch (Schwarzenegger) fires a mortar into a hut - we don't see a
    man projected into the air;

    24:06 - Similar shot, with a scream being affected by the edit;

    24:16 - 6 shots cut, removing a man in flames shot by Dillon (Carl
    Weathers), followed by him warning Dutch of an enemy, which is then shot by
    both (a shot presented the soldier being pierced by bullets, from behind);

    24:40 - When the helicopter in which the Russians where about to escape is
    blown away, we don't get to see a man falling out, in flames;

    24:51 - After an explosion, a scene is cut in which two men are projected
    in the air, falling down on the water;

    25:17 - A soldier on a tree is shot by a machine gun. Two shots of him
    falling down are cut, including one with him partially burning;

    25:27 - Billy (Sonny Landham) shots two soldiers, amongst explosives. One
    is burned by the flames, but we don't see any of this;

    25:45 - The famous "stick around!" scene is removed. Three shots are cut:
    the enemy approaches from behind, Dutch turns around and throws the knife,
    and then says the one-liner. They left the enemy entering the frame though.
    The audience should think it's one of the good guys following the leader?
    We can still hear part of the scream that Scharzenegger makes while he
    throws the weapon;

    1:08:22 - When Mac (Bill Duke) is killed by the predator we don't get to
    see a shot taken from a low angle, in which his head is dripping blood and
    his body jerks;

    1:10:10 - Other famous shot is almost totally removed: when Dillon's arm
    falls to the ground we don't see two shots of it still firing the machine
    gun and a third shot, in the middle, of his face reacting to the pain.
    There's only a brief moment of the arm hitting the ground left.

    The UK release disc (which is the same version that's available now in Portugal) was compared to an old VHS recording from Portuguese TV, and all the cuts shown above were present on the tape version. The UK VHS release also contains all the cut footage mentioned above. It does beg the question as to which region the UK disc "shared masters" with (to quote Fox), as all non-UK editions with additional dubbed soundtracks are uncut.
    NOTE: The disc released in Sweden, Norway etc. is the same as the UK disc (ie English-only soundtrack). This also goes for the R4 version.

    disclaimer: I would've preferred to give a direct link to the page rather than cut 'n' paste, but it's one of those sites where the address shown on my browser stays the same whichever page of it you visit.

    [ 20-07-2001: Message edited by: Confucius ]
     
  3. thestorm

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    Hi Confucius

    hhmmm all those cuts are quite annoying. :(
    I'll just have to buy the Region 1 of P2 when it comes out.
    Thanks for the link, it was excellent.
    If u know anymore good web sites like that pls email them : StormsTown@aol.com

    Cya,
    Shaz :D
     
  4. TJSMANGINA

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    "these cuts are minimal" are you joking the region 1 doesnt have these cuts so why does fox seem to see fit to edit for europe.region2 is becoming a joke very very quickly.why would anyone want region2 when the r1 discs are so much better ????????????
     
  5. MrFurious

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    THE CUTS ARE PATHETIC...the movie is over 10 years old now and still they have to heavily cut it for us in the uk,thank god i got the region1 PREDATOR from play247,and i'll gladly wait until predator 2 arrives on region1 so that i get to see the whole film and not a cut version.. :mad:
     
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    But it didn't have to be uncut (BBFC would have allowed uncut), Fox choose to use PRE-cut masters to save money (they even said this themselves).

    It's the same thing they have done (and will be doing) with the UK releases (without attempting to get uncut versions passed) of :
    Commando
    Big
    Hot Shots
    Hotshot 2
    Frank Herberts Dune Part 1
    Marked for Death
    Rapid Fire
    Bog Mommas House
    Entrapment
    Romancing the Stone
    Edward Scissorhands
    Mre Doubtfire
     
  7. Ars longa, vita brevis

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    thats a damn good site. it seems us brits are deemd just too sensetive.

    grrr arggghh
     
  8. Rambo John J

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    It's cut for the German market.
    Believe it or not censorship of violence is crazy in Germany, there's virtually no horror films for sale on the shelves of German shops these days and it's getting worse with dvd distribution houses actually getting raided by the police for producing horror discs. It's madness, they're worse than the UK now.
     
  9. Rambo John J

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    If you take another look, it wasn't Confucius that said it. It's actually the "official line" from Fox defending their product, although obviously none of them have seen the abortion they're supposed to be expected to defend. They claim it offers superb value for money aswell....maybe for them! The R2 punter ends up with a disc he can't watch, can't sell, and he ends up putting more coins in the Fox coffers by going out and buying the R1 version.

    There's something veeeeeeery wrong with this picture...... :mad:

    [ 23-07-2001: Message edited by: Rambo John J ]
     
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    Has anyone seen the region 4 version of predator 2,
    if so has it been cut ??? ,its available from www.ezydvd.com :confused:
     
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    well thats it for me region2 has had the last of my money unless they are identical to region1.besides they always get the films a dam site quicker anyway unless its lock stock an 2 smoking barrels etc.
     
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    an the editing is terrible i borrowed a r2 copy just to see if it really had been butchered.an yes it had jesus the editing looks like it`s been done by a 6 year old.the carl weathers arm scene is the worst its laughable.an how Confucius can say is doesnt deter from the quality of the film is beyond me
     
  13. Dave H

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    Had Predator DTS for ages now, it ROCKS!
    :D
     
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    I recieved my copy of Predator 2 from ezyDVD last week and my review is online now. Read it HERE

    As far as I know the DVD is fully uncut. Enjoy.
     

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