PQ & SQ DV-668AV versus DV-868AVi

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  1. Argento

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    Does anybody know how great the differences are regard the picture and sound quality of these two players?

    Thanks

    Rich
     
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    I have seen both running thru' HDMI and both looked great.....could not tell any difference PQ wise on the 434HDE they were connected to.
     
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    The PQ between the 868 and 668 is virtually identical.

    SQ is also almost identical but in stereo the 868 is supposed to be better than the 668.

    I currently have the 668 and it's movie abilities are fantastic. It is ok with stereo CD's (My Marantz CD5400 betters it imho), but feels a bit harsh, and the timing is ever so slightly off compared to a dedicated CD player. Multi channel music however sounds fantastic!! And movie sound reproduction is also very good.

    It is also a damn sight cheaper than the 868.
     
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    Apart from i-Link which I don't have so can't comment on, the major difference from what I see is that the 868 can scale to 1280x720p and 1920x1080i while the 668 is only able to scale to 4:3 PAL or NTSC resolutions.
     
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    Also, i think the scaler on the 868Ai only works when using HDMI connection.
     
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    Possibly, have to admit I've not tried it with component.
     
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    Thanks for the info folks - gone for the 868Ai. Are they easy to make multi-region?

    Rich
     
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    Kragorn so are you saying that the 668 cannot scale to 720 & 1080, thanks inza
     
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    that's correct. The question is, why you would want it to scale ?

    (projector owner ?)
     
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    joys-r-us, thanks and yes i am a pj owner hence the desire for my next dvd player to scale. Was hoping to get away with a 668 but looks like i will need to go the 868, still debating with myself at the mo though, you know what its like.
     
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    How good is the scaling anyway?
     
  12. Kazman

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    I was unaware the 668AVS did not scale, there goes my plans for a high end projector, unless I go for an external image scaler.

    Can we confirm or have a link to confirm that the 668 cannot scale to higher resolution?
     
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    Never mind, just checked the Pioneer website, and yup, the 668 does not have the image scaler of the 868.

    Oh well.......
     
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    That's correct, those features are 'greyed out' in the menus using analogue connections.
    From a sound quality perspective, the 868 has Hi-Bit upsampling and Legato Link, which the 668 does not. These only work on the Front L&R channels though and are of questionable use anyway.
    On the video side, the 868 has a 14 bit video DAC, the 668 has 12 bit. The 868 uses some higher quality components, such as capacitors and power supply.
     
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    It's pretty good to 1280x720p, combined with pretty good de-interlacing .. to my eyes anyway ;) .. it's sufficient to replace my HTPC, the first DVD player I've been able to say that of without reservations .. the other one which came close was a cheap and cheerful Momitsu V880 but that didn't have a great de-interlacer.
     

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