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Potential decent setup ?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by JohnCCFC, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. JohnCCFC

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    Hi,

    Would the following make sense?

    All devices; Sky+, DivX/DVD, XBox, DVD-R (in that order) - all using scart out

    connected to Quintro+ - scart out

    connected to JS RGB->VGA box

    connected to PWD7

    (audio all handled separately)

    My DVD player is not of the highest quality (or most used device) and so I can't justify a component board for it alone.

    I've just lost 50% of the purchase price of an almost brand new 'not so good' panel or order to try and get a decent PQ.

    If you have any experience of a similar setup, I'd be grateful. Likewise, if you can think of any adjustments you'd make (without going overboard with cost) I'd be interested in hearing your opinion.

    Also, as standard, besides the 'slots', what inputs are there on PWD7?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Jazz Monkey Jr

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    just a VGA input, i think
     
  3. JohnCCFC

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    Thanks, thats was what I thought. If there was a second that would have been handy, but if my setup is ok then it saves my having to buy any boards.
     
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    It'll all work, keep an eye out for 2nd hand boards in classifieds, you might be able to upgrade cheaply in the future that way. Enable RGB on everything before you connect to the plasma.
     
  5. JohnCCFC

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    Maw, which way would you anticipate I would upgrade (re:boards in the future) ?

    Thanks
     
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    DVI and/or component. Mostly DVI, it will enable you to connect to the next generation of sources. There are some issues to overcome, but hell it's better than being obsolete.
     
  7. JohnCCFC

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    Maw, I can understand the reasons for a DVI, is there a real need for component beyond a DVD?

    Also, slightly off topic - I seem to remember reading that you had a PHD7, is it worth considering one of these, or will some new clever cheaper thing come out when all the HD source stuff does. I understand the future-proofing argument but wonder whether more choice will be available at a cheaper price in the not too distant future anyway.


    Thanks
     
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    Will it work WELL though? Or are there sacrifices in quality?

    TIA, Jim
     
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    jblack, I guess that was my question really. I know that in an ideal world the Quintro+ scart box would be a scaler with whichever (DVI etc) was the neatest link. I've considered a few permutations and cable types but don't pretend the really understand the difference. I am not sold on the fact that I actually need a panny board of any kind so it kind of keeps things simple and cheap.
     
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    Lol, that's exactly my thinking. The set-up you've shown is also exactly the same as I'm planning (although PS2 not Xbox). Keep us updated as to how you get on mate.

    Cheers, Jim
     
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    As MAW says the set-up will work. It can be bettered, but it costs. A scaler rather than the Quintro will be a big improvement, the HD panny is also a big step up, but lots more money. Routing everything through the Quintro into the VGA port means no chance of picture-in-picture / picture and picture but I have never wanted that anyway!!
     
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    What kind of big step up is HD Panny? If I thought it was future-proofed I'd consider it. I've heard conflicting stories about it (50Hz ???).

    I used to like my PiP for playing xbox whilst listening to stand up, but to be honest, it's something I'm prepared to sacrifice. Would a scaler also not negate PiP?

    Just to put the cat amongst the pidgeons, which would be better?

    PWD7 & Scaler (iScan HD+ for example) £2400 ish

    or

    PHD7 £2300 ish
     
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    That really puts the cat amongst the pigeons! The PHD7 has noticeably less false contouring than the PWD7 (blocks of solid colour are better) and the extra detail from having more pixels is also clear.

    The lack of 720p and 1080i @ 50Hz is the big downer. Sky via SDI from a mofied Sky+ box running 576 @ 50 Hz looks awesome but conversion to 60 Hz still gives some judder, particularly with scrolling titles, ticker tapes etc.

    I ran a PWD4 with a Lumagen DVI for a couple of months before upgrading to the PHD7 and the PQ was very, very good. The ability to calibrate grayscale really accurately with the Lumagen as well as setting gamma to perfection produced a stunning picture both from DVD and Sky.

    Its a very close call but right now I don't think I would go for the HD Panasonic because of the 50 Hz problem. SD plus scaler just wins (and yes you are right that if everything is routed through the scaler you lose PiP) at this price point though the new panels that are coming in the next few weeks / months may well tip the balance the other way.
     
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    Piers, thanks for that. Its exactly the kind of info I'm looking for.
     
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    I have seen on an auction site DVDO I-SCAN HD+ - for under £800, is this the best one to buy for a PWD7?
     
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    The HD+ is good but doesn't give as much tweakability as the Lumagen does. On the other hand the HD+ is easier to set up. Both give good results with the Panasonic panels.
     
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    Thanks, I think I will add one to my budget - just waiting for the 8 series panels now...
     
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    I'd definitely miss the "picture and picture" feature. Man oh man, nothing beats watching 2 football games at once.:cool
     
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    I'd have to agree on the ease of setup front, for a DIY install the HD+ has it all the way. If Piers was going to do it for you, well the boot might be on the other foot...
     
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    I Think I Am A Bit Far For Piers..
     
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    you are 1/2 way between Piers and Gordon.
     
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    but at 40p/mile ???
     

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