i went to sheilds up site.http://www.grc.com/default.htm i ran a port check found port 0125 was not stealth.. spent all evening.. sad person i am.. trying to do stuff about it. Reading about it. I have nothing worth keeping in my computer honest! So i tried even to give it a enema by inserting the mesh back up disc to reformat my drive.. times was getting on.. my computer would not except my original disc because the windows i was trying to format was older than... well you lot work it out... i got rid of 3rd party software ran gibson again port still open. So.. i had a mad moment.. mmmmmmmmmmm.. i hit restore i restored it to 4 months ago. Brilliant... stealth again now.. avg had a major heart attack and had update loads of its files. Tell me this someone cuz im thick sorry... 1025 been open a long while to close it i ran syteck free firewall along with zone alarm to keep it closed ..was fine.. till one day for no reason i did not upset it honest.. sygate just vanished of my computer..I do not know.. i did not press nothing I should not have. Nutshell then if anyone else is botherd about security and port 1025 open hit the restore button as far back as you can go. work for me. other thing for those of you interested in this sort of thing above.. who may not know there is a new free site www.vtunnell.com go to it type your favourite search engine in the search box at the bottom press enter. now you can go to tools on your browser. and make this your home page. you can visit all those sites you always wanted to Anon.. and have unlimited downloads but the bad news. you cant get on hear. and the other is when america wakes up about dinnertime in the uk gets a bit slow. but its great really is.. have fun.