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PMC FB1 and Bryston Powerpacs

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    Does anyone own any PMC FB1's with Bryston Powerpacs or has anyone heard them combined.

    I believe that for the 120's they are about £1800 a pair, is this better value than bi-aming?

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    John
     
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    Sticker,

    The powerpacs are supposed to be very good indeed.

    I haven't heard them myself, but there has been a lot of chat/reviews on Bryston gear, all good.

    I'd contact them direct. They have/had a book full of reviews of their kit from all over the world, not just UK they send out with their literature. Very good read indeed.

    I'm a huge fan in the very least of the Bryston name. I heard their AV amps at the Event 1 driving B&W speakers. Ok, not powerpacs, but if those are the standards they work by, don't even hesitate. Get a demo.

    I don't own any Bryston gear, but if I could.....................
     
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    A demo it is then!

    Thanks for the advice :)
     
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    sticker,

    I would be interested in hearing your opinion of the combination if you manage to get a demo anywhere. Also interested to know how easy it is to set everything up with the power packs.

    I have some FB1's and I can feel them begging for some better amps. :)
     
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    Ukpete,
    As soon as I manage to track down a dealer that has the powerpacs in place I'll report back.

    A dealer who had heard them said that in tightened up and focused the higher end no end, which is what I want to achieve, BUT he did say that perhaps a better way to go was with the Tannoy super tweeters if that's the aim or if I had the money, both:laugh:

    Regards
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    I don't have a problem with the high end. When they were new they sometimes sounded a little bit harsh, but now they've settled down. I've even biwired them which has really opened them up. I've never been a fan of biwireing, but it seems to suit the FB1's (atlest in my current setup)

    I also found toeing them in a bit helped out aswell.

    I'm looking for a amp with more grunt, every body tells me to buy an arcam P85, but I've had such bad experiences with arcam that I'm not prepared to give them any more money. I like the idea of Bryston's.
     
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    Perhaps mine are a bit new (3months), but I do know what you mean about more grunt, the Brystons seem the obvious answer or bi-amping.
    Strange thing was the dealer said although these Tannoys are aimed at the top end, he reckoned that it refocused and enhanced the bottom end, i'm not convinced.

    A dealer is supposed to be contacting me tomorrow to tell me whether he can demo at the weekend
     
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    have you tried biwiring,,,it may have the same effect. it may also be worth experimenting with different speaker cable. I know this goes against all audiophile advice, and I run the risk of being branded a wierdo but I ended up using different types of cable for the bass and treble. hey,, it works for me.

    this will make you laugh. One unforseen side effect of the pmc's is that now I need to buy new windows. they make my existing windows rattle. The cost of the windows would of bought some nice amps :)
     
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    Got mine biwired with cable talk 3.1, was going to try QED silver anniversary.

    Not thought of using different cable but why not, certain cable is supposed to be brighter etc, so sounds logical to me, I await the feedback from audiophiles:)

    I know what you mean about the windows, I found a loose floorboard I didn't know I had when I demo'd mine to a mate, turned the bass up playing an old vinyl record (very sad, Bauhaus, She's in parties), phenominal bass guitar.

    :laugh:
     
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    I'm a big fan of PMC speakers:smashin:

    You should hear their active AML1's (approx £3700 per pair)

    They are fantastic, and if i had the money i'd have 3 pairs of them for a superb home theatre speaker system..... :cool:

    Naturally, the built-in amplification is Bryston.


    Adz...
     
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    Thanks for this DavidR, you have managed to do more than I have, actually track down some in stock. Dealers phoned me this morning to say he couldn't get any for 3 weeks, so I'll give these a call.

    Cheers
    John:smashin:
     
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    Digital Village, just been to their web sit, bloody hell they are only 500 yards from where I live!!!! I always thought hey only sold yamaha organs etc, would never have thought of going in there, small world or I'm just blind:blush:
     
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    Spoke to one of the PMC guys at the Bristol show re this and it wa very interesting.
    Basically what he said was that to be honest because the power pacs had gone up so much in price recently, you were much better off purchasing a Bryston 4B SST or a 9B SST/2 and siting that as close as possible to the speakers to keep the speaker cable runs short.

    He also mentioned that the FB1's were designed using single wire rather than bi-wire and he doubted the added benefit of bi-wiring, but hey that's another argument!!

    Did anyone listen to teh OB1's, thought that they sounded very good
     
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    I bought ex-demo, 2 pairs of powerpacs 120 for my center and surrounds, (yes, I have one spare), for 2.400 euros, and a 4B ST for the fronts, same price... :D

    The powerpacs sound exactly the same to me, just less power...

    The powerpac 250 has the new SST circuits, I wouldn´t mind 3 of them for front and center... :rolleyes:
     
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    Just a note to say that if anyone is thinking of buying PMC or Bryston amplification, check out PMC's AML1 actives.......they are serious serious speakers......

    I liked them even more than M&K MPS2510P's (which numerous pro studios & mastering suites use)......

    Built in Bryston amplification & superb build quality.....

    If you get the chance, give them a demo........they are stunning.

    The best 'active' speakers i have ever heard:smashin:

    Adzman.
     
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    I think you must of had the same conversation with the guy from PMC at Bristol that I did :). I had a listen to the Bryston/FB1 combo in the TEAK room, but to be honest it did'nt sound as good as the arcam/FB1 setup I have at home. I dont think having them setup in a small demo room helped much. I'll try to get a demo set up at audio-t in Pompey where maybe I can be a bit more subjective and do some comparisons.

    The OB1's did sound excellent. superb bass. :clap:
     
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    Ukpete, it's a small world re converstaions, but at least it is consistent:)

    OB1's sounded good to me as well, shame I've only just bought the FB1's

    Spligsey, out of interest how much do the AML1 cost?
     
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    Sticker........


    The AML1's will set you back around £3700.00 per pair.........

    Top money for top performance.


    Adzman
     
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    If you haven't seen it:

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