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**PLEASE HELP** REL Storm connection problem

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by SilverPenguin7, Aug 11, 2002.

  1. SilverPenguin7

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    I have just purchased a Denon 1802 having decided to finally retire my trusty ol Yammy DSPA920 after 7 years. However, I have come across a problem.

    To connect my REL to the Denon I need an XLR (REL) to RCA (Denon) lead. The lead that was supplied with the REL is just bare at the amp end as it was connected to my old amp via the speaker terminals. However I need to connect it to the dedicated sub input on the new amp. (I did have an RCA plug wired to this lead ages ago but as the lead isn't shielded I got a very bad hum, hence why it was then connected to the speaker terminals of the old amp.)

    I cannot for the life of me find anywhere that suppliers an XLR to RCA sub cable!! Well, thats a lie as Musical Images in covent garden have them but its a pain for me to get there. What I really need is a REL supplier that does mail order. If anyone out there can help I would be VERY grateful :)
     
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    Hi, welcome to the forums!

    I'm not sure if i am understanding correctly, but here is what i think. I presume the lead which you have and are referring to xlr to bare wire is the standard REL cable. As far as i know, it is a NEUTRIK connection, not an XLR. Hence if you did find XLR to rca i doubt it would work (at least with my storm it wouldnt). How i use the slorm is i have a single mono run of rca to rca. I connect it to the amp sub ouput and then into the mono rca input on the storm. It seems to work for me no problem.

    hope this helps you

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    All Mk. 1 REL have XLR connections (my Storm does). REL-specific wiring diagrams are on the web/usenet somewhere if you want to make up your own cable with an RCA. If you're not competant a local lecky shop of some sort will do it if you give them the diagram.

    Else, REL will supply you with one.

    Mike.
     
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    Am i missing a point here?. The Rel storm already has gold plated RCA phono,s on the panel for direct connection to processors,is it not just a case of using a decent phono to phono lead?.
     
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    I bought a standard XLR to phono cable from Hifibitz (I think) and took it to my local TV repair man who resoldered it the correct way for a Storm.
     
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    The earlier ones don't have any phono sockets.
     
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    The Mk.1 REL Storm has three XLRs and no RCA's. I promise you.

    Mike.
     
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    So who mentioned which Mk it was?. As where in the 21st century now I thought it was too.
     
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    He didn't ask which connector to use implying that he may have input options but asked where to get hold of the correct lead.
     
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    Then assumption is the mother of all errors
     
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    I made no assumption but read the question and answered it.

    Please do not waste people's time posting pointless rubbish.
     
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    I assumed it was a later model and admit i made an error, you have now assumed i made a dig at you please note my last remark. As for pointless, as you are an authority on the subject then i shall accept the remark
     
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    :D :D :D
     
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    Wow thanks for all the replies guys, great stuff.

    I had an RCA plug wired to the end of my lead aaaaages ago but took it off as it produced an annoying hum the whole time so I thought this time I would buy a cable thats shielded and ready to go out the packet.

    Didn't know newer subs had the RCA otherwise I would have mentioned its a MK 1 :)

    Wonder how much REL would charge...*gulp*

    Need to get it sorted though, never had a digi amp until yesterday but it just doesn't feel right without my trusty REL booming away :(
     
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    (spell-corrected)

    Guess what ? Plenty of vintage (1950's/1960's/1970's/1980's) hi-fi equipment is in the Twenty-first Century too (!). It doesn't autodestruct at the end of each decade. And some of it arguably improves with age. The original (1994 ?) REL Storm Mk. I isn't hugely different from the latest Mk. III, especially at the ears. People rarely have to throw equipment away after three or four years because it has just stopped working.

    Hope that helps,
    Mike.
     
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    If it's spell corrected then it can't be an original post!!!
     
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    I wouldn't have a clue were to look for this?! Do you have any links to this information at all?

    BTW your right, nothing wrong with my ol' mk1 Storm thats for sure (when its bloody hooked up that is!!) :D

    Tried REL's website, www.rel.net but it didn't help. Is this the official site??
     
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    SP7,

    If you get any 75-ohm screened, terminated cable of the correct length and then find yourself a screw-type XLR (see local music shops) and a pair of wire cutters you can make your own cable up without having to solder a thing and it will work just sweetly.

    Regarding hum, I get that with mine a bit, trick was to keep the cable as short as poss. And obv. away from hum sources (mains).

    Mike.
     
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    Pins are numbered 1,2 and 3. Pins 1 and 2 are the signal pins,
    these can be connected together and to the inner core of a screened cable, pin 3 connects to the outer screen of the cable.

    Lektropaks will sell you an xlr - phono cable which is not wired correctly for a REL and your local TV repairman will rewire it as above for you.

    http://www.lektropacks.co.uk/dept.asp?Hash=127&dept_id=201
     
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    Pin 1 is cold ( Inverting ) Pin 2 is Hot ( Non Inverting ) Pin 3 Ground (0v Screen) if you join pin 1 and pin 3 together then you turn the system from balanced to unbalanced

    Hope this helps
     
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    Dan,

    Not being technical I don't really understand what you are saying but what I posted above came from Eric at REl who is always very helpful. I bought the cable, wrote down the above and took cable and scrap of paper to TV man who resoldered it perfectly and charged me £4
     
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    Thats the usual way of wiring an XLR and as far as know this is industry standard. There are available adaptors that look like an XLR plug with an RCA phono on top, I think Maplins may do them this is quite a simple solution too.
     
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    REL wiring is different to the industry standard.
     
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    Just checked out the website and lo and behold.....they are 2 mins up the road from where I live! YAAAAAAAAAAAAY
     

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