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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by paulmcp2403, May 31, 2005.

  1. paulmcp2403

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    Folks,

    I have £1500 to spend on a projector and I want a hi-def, ready one....with HDMID etc...and preferably 1028x720 etc....

    tried the 4805 but was not overly impressed...keep gettingt he panny ae700 recommnded and the themescene h57....

    any advice folks ??

    many thanks :O)
     
  2. nwgarratt

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    The BenQ 7700 should be on the top of your list.

    By the way. The resolution you want is 1280 x 720. You probably already know this but i'm just checking it wasn't a typo.
     
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    The themescene H57 is not a 1280x720 projector, so that recommendation was wide of the mark (if the person involved knew you were looking for a projector with a hidef panel resolution.

    The AE700, Sony HS50 and Benq 7700 would be on my "must see" list in that budget territory.

    S.
     
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    Got to be the panni a700.
     
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    The Sony HS50 can be bought for £1579 and is a good choice. Better contrast than the AE700 and isn't prone to vertical banding which affects some LCD projectors.

    the Benq PE7700 has 1280x720 resolution but is a DLP. You'd first have to check that you don't suffer from "rainbows" -- brief flashes of colour as you move your eyes across the screen. DLPs can be unwatchable for some people so a demo is recommended.

    The Panasonic AE700 is under £1000 now but isn't quite as good as the Sony. For that price it's definitely worth considering though. Then there's the Sanyo Z3 at a similar price.

    A few places to get you started :)

    http://www.prcdirect.co.uk/PRC/PRC.storefront/EN/product/VPLHS50

    http://www.ivojo.co.uk/benq-pe7700.htm

    http://www.digitaldirectuk.com/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=6092

    http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/73204/art/sanyo/videoprojector-plv-z3.html
     
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    the toshiba mt700 is available from a few places at about £1650 - and its 1280x720 with faroujda picture scaling and hdmi. picture is amazing.
     
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    Oh, H57 compared to HS50, H57 pops a lot more HS50 is dim. (and I see more screendoor)
    Pany 700, lots of banding and chromatic distortion and a clicking iris?
    Oh yeah HD lcd pixels is nice on the new models, but even a H57 blows them away with filmlike picture even in hd it looks better unless you go 30 cm near the screen and start nitpicking.

    benq and tosh colours are a bit off, H57 is spot on (primairy colours)
     
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    Hi, I'm also looking long and hard @ the HS50 - can anyone confirm if it has both HDMI & DVI ?

    AVLand shows only HDMI
    PRCDirect shows both ??

    Also, are there any better LCD suggestions for £2000 or less ( other than the AE700 ) ? If not, the HS50 it will be !!

    Thanks, DB.
     
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    Hi DB, the HS50 only has HDMI, and no DVI.

    Having said that, I use the VGA input! :)
     
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    Urban, did you bother with the firmware update on your HS50 ?
     
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    Urban what is the distance from projector to screen out of curiosity?
     
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    I haven't bothered with the new firmware as it doesn't effect anything I use.

    Lens to screen distance is approximately 11 ft :)
     
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    UrbanT, thanks for that & excellent set-up, those screen shots have clinched my decision!!

    Just a few quick questions:
    Is the VGA connection via a standard 15 pin d-sub ?
    Why do you prefer the VGA connection?
    Do you watch analogue or Freeview TV on this set-up & if so, how well is the picture rendered ?
    ( Asking because I'm deciding which sources to add into the set-up rather than deciding on the projector, i've now made that choice :D )
    Just to double check, 7ft screen @ 11ft ?
    Can I adjust the pj to reduce the screen size down
    ( but this sounds perfect, I'm looking at 6 or 7 ft screen from 11'6", the room is 3.7metres by 3 metres, and is also a converted garage :rotfl: )

    Cheers, DB.
     
  15. UrbanT

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    Hi DB,

    It is just a standard 15pin d-sub. The VGA lead is 10m in length and connects to the PC (via a VGA/DVI dongle) to the ATI. I could connect it straight to the PC's VGA, but I read somewhere that connecting to the DVI is better, so thats how I've left it.

    If you look in the equipment rack, you can see a Sky box. This connects via RGB to a Sweetspot card in the PC, and Dscaler is then used to display the picture. The picture is very good, within the confines of how good Sky's transmission is (which sometimes can be very poor)

    Finally, I wouldn't just decide based on screenshots, which have very limited value. I would always suggest you demo if you can, its the only way to be sure :)
     
  16. dblain

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    Thanks for the quick reply.
    I added another question at the same time as you responded ref screen size ?
    And I know what you mean ref the screenshots- I'm still very impressed.
    Thanks again, DB.
     
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    Welcome to the converted garage club :hiya:

    The screen is 7ft wide, and the distance to PJ lens is approx 11ft. From this distance, I think you are on minimum zoom, so there isn't much chance you will get a smaller image. This calculator at Projector Central is very useful when working out sizes, its specific to the Hs50/51 http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony-VPL-HS51-projection-calculator-pro.htm

    Why do I prefer VGA? When testing VGA vs HDMI, I couldn't see any difference in picture quality. Therefore, I use VGA because:
    1) there are zero problems with blanking
    2) pixel mapped image - particularly useful when trying to read text from the PC
    3) more resolutions available in games, than when connected via HDMI

    There are more options available within the Sony's menu when connected via HDMI, but connecting via a PC and VGA means you don't need those options, as the HTPC gives you ultimate flexibility and tweaking ability. :)
     

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