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Please help a bewildered newbie spend his money

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by saturday, Feb 9, 2003.

  1. saturday

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    I currently have an old Sony 4:3 25" coupled to an Aiwa Dolby Prologic system, sony VHS and a sky digibox. Not great or sexy but all I could afford - until now! Through hard sweat and tears I now have a bit more than £1600 to spend and its time to move into the 21st century.

    For the last couple of months I've read all the TV and Home Cinema mags and pored over the reviews. I chose a few likely candidates and went to look at them in the shops. What a disappoinment! I can't believe how badly the shops I've been into display audio visual equipment costing thousands of pounds. Screens that reviews told me would take my breath away were so packed together that I couldn't view from a normal distance and fed with the sort of signal I'd expect from an indoor arial. :suicide: This even includes specialist sony and panasonic shops not just the big retailers.

    What I have in mind is a 32" with a great picture (the room would take a 36" but that would blow my budget ). I don't watch much sport but do like films and nature docs. Of course I need a DVD (yes I really am still in the dark ages) and I'm guessing that I'd be better off investing in a new Home Theatre system than go for a set with it built in. So I'm thinking maybe £1200 for the TV, £300 for the sound system and £150 for the DVD.

    Any recommendations on what I should look at? I don't really have any brand loyalty but have been pretty happy with my sony over the years.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this.

    :hiya:
     
  2. Manuman

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    Maybe a Sony 32" and the Sony DAV's.(not sure of the price tho)
     
  3. nathan_silly

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    How big is the room?

    I would say keep the Sony TV now- get a DVD player and a 5.1 system now- then buy a Widescreen TV.

    Gonna find it hard to have EVERYTHING (and quality gear) for £1500.

    So if you keep the TV- you'll need a DVD player, a AV Amp and 5 speakers and a subwoofer.


    DVD Player- Pioneer 350, £120

    AV Amp- Onkyo 595- £450 (spend more on the amp, you want plenty of power, otherwise a low power amp will sound bad)

    Speakers- Energy Take 5.1 system- comprisis 4 sats and a centre, and a subwoofer.

    Add another £50 for cables.
     
  4. saturday

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    Thanks for the response nathan_silly.

    Room is pretty big - 25ft by 15ft.

    Yes, DVD definitely needed but do you think that 5.1 should really be ahead of a new widescreen? I know the Dolby prologic I have is pretty old hat but it drives some reasonable Aiwa speakers (centre, subwoofer, main pair and rear) and certainly brings the Sony alive.

    The DVD looks worth a look and I take your point about the amp - £450 blows a big hole in my budget though. In my head I'd thought great picture and good sound ahead of OK picture and fabulous sound.
     
  5. nathan_silly

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    I guess you could get a Nicam only 32" for £600, so perhaps you can actually get everthing in one go...someone here should be able to recommend one.


    Is the system only going to be used for AV? Or do you want good CD sound as well?

    If you want good CD sound, best to get slightly larger L/R speakers- get standmounts, not sats.

    Standmounts usually have a 6.5" driver, wheras sats have a 3" or 4" driver.

    You could buy a 2nd hand Yamaha A1 for £400, that's a top-end amp (was £1400 new I think), 110W per channel. I doubt you won't upgrade that for while!

    Personally I think in that size room you'll need more than a 32" inch set.
     
  6. MartinImber

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    DVD Player decent spec. ie RGB Scart

    Knick DPL Speakers and get a DD 5.1 amp/receiver

    DD is MUCH better than DPL

    Get a TV later

    32" is a 25" replacement

    Wegas are nice
     
  7. saturday

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    Thanks again nathan_silly. A Nicam only 32" for £600 is much less than I was expecting to pay - any brands/models you'd recommend?

    Maybe you're right though that I should think about a 36" for the size of room.

    Both you and MartinImber (thanks MartinImber) are certainly pointing me towards investing in sound and DVD first, TV second. Its just the thought of a brand new big picture screen sitting in the room is so appealing :smoke:

    Maybe I should carry on saving and wait until I've got more to spend :confused:
     
  8. Gray

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    Hi there

    I have just done the very upgrade that you are looking at, with about the same budget, and I am very happy with my system now.

    I bought a 32inch Toshiba 32ZD26P for £850
    A sony DB760 amp for £235
    A Cyberhome CH505 for £99

    The TV is great and I am very happy with the Amp and DVD. I have connected the TV and DVD player to the amp and now play everything, (dvd, mp3, cd, radio, PC and TV) through it and it sounds great. Pro logic 2 is a definate I would say.

    I bought everything through the net from different places and was made up with both the service and delivery.

    Hope you get sorted out.

    Gray
     
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    Not a Sony direct view- not unless you want the typical right-shifting-ghosting problem...see below


    I prefer to do upgrades bit by bit- rather than getting the whole lot in one go- you notice the upgrade (like when you add a centre), and you learn how to put it together (why pay for it to be installed, learning how it goes together is half the fun!)

    Do you live in a apartment/semi/detached?


    If I was you, try demoing a satellite/subwoofer (ie the Take 5.1) system that's around £600. Play 5.1 DVD's and some CD's.

    Then demo a slightly better system, ie, with Kef Q1's, Q9 centre, Q dipoles. (speaker cost ~£800, no sub) Play 5.1 and some CD's. Then ask for them to add a subwoofer. Play the same DVD scenes again.

    For the CD test, disable any DSP and put into Stereo mode.

    Then ask yourself- can you tell the difference for CD replay between the two systems? (plus the difference when adding a sub)

    You could buy a Velodyne from Eric on these forums- checkout the CHT-10. Trust me once you go above a certain level you won't regret it! :D :D

    Nathan
     

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    i have just bought a sony kd 32dx 40 u dvb set i must say i am thrilled with it the price was £868-50 with a dvd or vcr thrown in.
    hope this helps,Jim
     
  11. MartinImber

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    Never seen the right ghost

    Also good price for the DX40!
     
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    I had/have an excellent large standardard format TV and no DVD. Decided to get DVD and sound upgrade to a reasonable budget, thinking along the same lines as silly member, TV OK sound poor. So I bought a Sony DAVS-800 all in one. It was recommended by everybody at the time as the best all in one and beating a lot of separates. Have to say it is really good, and I don't use the TV speakers at all now.

    BUT, I really wish I had done it the other way around. TV first and sound second. If I had, I would have probably bought a better DVD/sound system for similar money as an upgrade to an excellent TV. Now all I do is get fed up with a standard format TV with cinema style sound. If I had bought a good Nicam TV I would have got a better soud and picture than I had, and when I then bought the full sound system I really would have got something. Now I am just frustrated. Just a thought.
     

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