Playstation 3 - 1080 standard output - Which Lcd Projecdtor?

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  1. Anners

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    unless your talking 20k your not getting one with that native res im afriad. it wont be far off that price bracket. look for a thread recently by gordon were he got his sticky mits on i think it was a JVC with a 1080 native res. think he or some one states the retail is around 18k. im happy that mine can handle 720p and 1080i as i wouldnt spend all the money just to see a ps3 at that res as remember its our first time to have a playstation output HD properly with the exception of maybe GT4 so its gonna look fantastic at 720p
     
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    Yep, the only one at the moment is the 1080p Fujitsu D711 at 17 grand. There are some DiLA models around the 15 grand mark and upwards...

    Seriously though, 1080p downscaled to even 720p (native res of just about all LCD projectors out at the moment) is going to look the dogs dangley bits, dont feel you've *got* to have 1080p resolution to get the best out of it.
     
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    I'm going to get two. One for each output.

    Oh my god!!!!

    When will the prices likely come down?
     
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    what you have to think about is what is a persons value of such technology. it could come down to say 10k and some one may think this is acceptable and a few will not. i cant see the prices plummiting soon seing as 1080p isnt wisly used from what ive seen. there isnt many displays in the world that can handle it as of yet. most HD in the states is either 1080i or 720p. liam has hit the nail on the head as far as im concerned 1080p scaled down to 720p for example will looks the biz !!!! i scale down certain 1080i material on my PJ to 720p and its mind blowing trust me. 1080p is not the be all and end all of HD :thumbsup:
     
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    Looks like I'll just have to make do with 720p projector then.

    We'll get there eventually.

    On that note what is a good bet for a PS3 compatible projector?

    Panasonic PTAE700E?
     
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    O NOO can worms open NOOOO :D just kidding.

    For LCD take alook at Hitachi PJ-TX100, Sanyo PLV-Z3, Sony HS50 and Panny AE700. all great machines go do the search ;) starter is this very forum with countless threads on the same subject :hiya: have fun

    DLP im not that up to speed on as i didnt research it when i was getting my PJ. im sure someone with DLP experience will pop in for you if your interested in DLP
     
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    Thanks.

    I'll keep my eyes peeled.
     
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    What's your budget? 720 DLP start from around £1450 and go up to £8000. £25000 for 3 chip models.

    Gary
     
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    Sony Qualia 004, maybe?
     
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    Well. PS3 is at least a year away and by then a 1080p might be in your price range.
    I wouldn't buy anything till then because projectors drop in price faster then any other electrical items I know.

    You'll be able to pick up a second hand AE700 for 600 quid by the time PS3 comes out.
     
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    But Xbox 360 is just 6 months away :)
     
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    It wont be long before 1920x1080 lcd panels make their way into consumer projectors that are at about the same cost as we are currently spending on 1280x720 lcd projectors. Epson already produces the panels, it just strikes me as though sanyo and panasonic want to milk the cow thats already out there, especially as there is no real pressing need for 1920x1080 lcd projectors yet (thats debatable i know, i own an uber specced pc that is easily capable of displaying fmv 1920x1080 content, but apart from games, theres not much out there that has that as its native res).

    My estimate? next year, 1920x1080 lcd projectors, 2 grand a pop.

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    Hi

    I should also think a AE700 or the like would do you well.

    sony has only stated that the PS3 is 1080p compatible (like almost any PC graphics card) not that all the games would be 1080p (which would be very drainging on system resources)


    Only Microsoft has gone on record to mandate 720p/1080i minimum for all games on it's console.

    At a guess I would imagine Sony will do like wise to compete
     
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    Doesn't Sony have a SXRD Qualia 005 projector for £25,000 out sometime this year? Capable of a 10 foot screen. Imagine PS3 games on a 10ft screen in 1080p! Imagine having 2. :D
     
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    If a large portion of Bluray (or whatever standard they are now working on - hd dvd and blu ray amalgam?) supports 1920x1080p then id wait until the 1920x1080 lcd stuff hits the shelves.

    A 1280x720 like the ae500 or ae700 might be a good short term purchase for a grand. i paid 1500 pounds early last year for my ae500, and its been great, the pq astounds me and my friends when we run it from my pc, but the jump up to 1920x1080 is pretty large, and i think you might kick youself if you make a purchase now only to find the 1920x1080 stuff arrive later this year.

    As for the qualia, i dont think it supports anything but 24fps at 1920x1080, although i could be wrong. I do remember reading something about it that put me off (and not just the price!) in the tech specs of the machine.

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    This is true, alltho with the xbox 360 they have made the graphics card in such a way so that it can do HD and AA free of charge without putting any strain on the Graphics card.
    Where as with the PS3 the graphics card is not as powerfull as the 360's and with the added option of 1080P i cant see many game utilising this option.

    Best bet is to purchase a 720P PJ for now and give it 3 years then upgrade.
     
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    Hmmmm, thats not what ive been reading, and even if it is the case, surely they could farm the job out to one of the 7 super quick vector processing units that comprise the main CPU?

    pez
     
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    without getting into a flame war i beleave you have been taken in by all the sony hype that has been doing the rounds, as well as the FMV footage that is said to be ingame.

    Here is a more techy look at the 360 architecture http://www.techreport.com/etc/2005q2/xbox360-gpu/index.x?pg=1

    Basically the bottom line is, the ps3 CPU will be more powerfull than the 360's, but the 360's GPU will stomp all over the ps3.

    So from a gaming point of view the 360 will proberly look better.
     
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    No need for a flame war, ive read that info too. I find it difficult to draw the same conclusion as you before nVidia have even finished the silicon for the RSX gpu that will reside within the PS3 though.

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    I'm torn between buying a 720p PJ or waiting for a 1080p one. Has anyone seen both a current 720p PJ fed with HD material and a 1080PJ with HD? How do they compare? Is the improvement apparant, or is the quality similar? I'm sure going from Pal to HD (even 720p) should make quite a difference. But how much of a difference is it going from 720p to 1080p (I guess, at a certain resolution, the eyes wont be able to pick up more detail).

    Indy :)
     
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    I agree.

    Epson has already developed a 1080p LCD panel so hopefully Panasonic will use that in the replacement for the AE700.

    When HD becomes mainstream the price will drop to £2000.
     
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    Someone on this board said that Panasonic would discontinue the PT AE and concentrate on LCD TVs. Not sure who it was, but that would mean the Pana 700 is the last PJ by that company.
     
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    I have a feeling that dual screen 1080P games on PS3 are going to be very thin on the ground.

    It said that the GPU is around twice as fast as the current PC cards and that would not be sufficient to render 2 x 1080P images of any complexity at acceptable framerates.
     
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    no worries really, ive had 2 1280x720 projectors running from a geforce 6800gt card via dvi running 2560x720 resolution in GTR and nr2003, at 60fps (when ive had vertical sync on) and higher without it.

    racing games will be using the dual display if you want it.

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    Wow. That sounds amazing. Did have AA going?
     

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