Platimum vs gold plated hdmi

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Ollie C

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Hi, just wondering, which is better gold or platimum plugs on hdmi cables, and does anyone recommed a particular one for around a tenner?
 

mikim

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Hi there,
Both will look exactly the same for PQ, but if you personally like the look of one to the other then buy that one. :thumbsup:
Cheers.
 

Phlog

Novice Member
"which is better gold or platimum plugs on hdmi cables"

I think you should hold out for diamond studded plugs - internally lit by multi-coloured LEDs....
 

Ollie C

Novice Member
"which is better gold or platimum plugs on hdmi cables"

I think you should hold out for diamond studded plugs - internally lit by multi-coloured LEDs....
ur a funny guy! well done, that really was amusing, im sure ur mothers proud.
 

Chris Muriel

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Long term there might be more chance of electrolytic corrosion with 1 or the other depending on what metal connected to what other metal each end (would have to then consult an electrochemical table).
However, I am writing this somewhat tongue in cheek as platinum, rhodium, gold or whatever sounds like pure marketing BS to me.

Chris Muriel, Beijing (normally Manchester)
 

AndyBlack

Standard Member
"which is better gold or platimum plugs on hdmi cables"

I think you should hold out for diamond studded plugs - internally lit by multi-coloured LEDs....

Yeah, that's the ones I'm waiting for. Aparently 50 Cent is first in the queue though :D
 

ExSlacker

Novice Member
Long term there might be more chance of electrolytic corrosion with 1 or the other depending on what metal connected to what other metal each end (would have to then consult an electrochemical table).
However, I am writing this somewhat tongue in cheek as platinum, rhodium, gold or whatever sounds like pure marketing BS to me.

Chris Muriel, Beijing (normally Manchester)

There is some point to using gold plating as it is less prone to oxidising than copper. This is more important when high currents are passed but it general it will make no difference on something like an HDMI cable. Platinum is roughly similar to gold in terms of oxidisng potential (in fact slightly more prone to oxidation) so there is no point in using it.

I'd hold out for the diamond myself as it sould last ages.:thumbsup:
 

JonathanMSTYoun

Standard Member
Gold Plating is less conductive then silver or tin there for it is better.

Now if your device doesn't have a gold adapter then your benefit is less but is still there.

The Cables quality is more important then the adapter quality but is still important

Adapter Specification: (Highly Recommended 2011)

Coax
RG-6 compatible COMPRESSION connecters

HDMI
Gold Plated 1.3/1.4 compatible


Ethernet
RJ-45 CAT7 compatible with GOLD tips

SATA III
Quality cables have a metal clip on the adapter

Cable Specification: (Highly Recommended 2011)

Coax RG-6/U or RG-6/UQ
(RG-6/UQ is higher quality and has Quad Shielding pervading better quality cable and higher durability)

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4
(1.4 is better quality and has a higher data transfer speed)

Ethernet Cat 6 or Cat 7
(Cat 7 has a wire shield pervading better quality cable and more durability also has a higher data transfer speed)

SATA III
(SATA III is better quality and has 2XSATAII data speed)

Gold plating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

andy1249

Distinguished Member
Gold Plating is less conductive then silver or tin there for it is better.

Now if your device doesn't have a gold adapter then your benefit is less but is still there.

The Cables quality is more important then the adapter quality but is still important

Adapter Specification: (Highly Recommended 2011)

Coax
RG-6 compatible COMPRESSION connecters

HDMI
Gold Plated 1.3/1.4 compatible


Ethernet
RJ-45 CAT7 compatible with GOLD tips

SATA III
Quality cables have a metal clip on the adapter

Cable Specification: (Highly Recommended 2011)

Coax RG-6/U or RG-6/UQ
(RG-6/UQ is higher quality and has Quad Shielding pervading better quality cable and higher durability)

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4
(1.4 is better quality and has a higher data transfer speed)

Ethernet Cat 6 or Cat 7
(Cat 7 has a wire shield pervading better quality cable and more durability also has a higher data transfer speed)

SATA III
(SATA III is better quality and has 2XSATAII data speed)

There is no such thing as a HDMI 1.4 compatible cable , thats BS , all HDMI cables work with all HDMI interfaces and all the features that are found on all interfaces.
The only exception to this is the "with ethernet" feature which nobody, and I mean nobody , has implemented , mainly because RJ45 and ethernet cable is so much more reliable.

There is zero difference between HDMI 1.3 and 1.4 chipsets in terms of data throughput , both have exactly the same limit of 10.2 Gbps.

As for the rest of the post , only the first sentence makes any sense as far as I can see.
 

JonathanMSTYoun

Standard Member
There is no such thing as a HDMI 1.4 compatible cable , thats BS , all HDMI cables work with all HDMI interfaces and all the features that are found on all interfaces.
The only exception to this is the "with ethernet" feature which nobody, and I mean nobody , has implemented , mainly because RJ45 and ethernet cable is so much more reliable.

There is zero difference between HDMI 1.3 and 1.4 chipsets in terms of data throughput , both have exactly the same limit of 10.2 Gbps.

As for the rest of the post , only the first sentence makes any sense as far as I can see.

Yes all HDMI's are compatible, and yes the HDMI limit is 10.2Gbps. But 1.4 is different from 1.3 being that it is of higher quality cable and more reliable data transfer speed.

Now pretty much every connecter is backwards compatible yes, but that does not mean it will utilize the full potential of the newer configuration to achieve the best performance you must have the newer of the two adapters across the entire system. For example if my TV has a 1.3 HDMI adapter and my wire is HDMI 1.4 then the cable and the TV will never achieve better then the 1.3 specifications.

Ethernet, if you put in a Cat 7 Ethernet cable but use CAT 5e wall mounts then the cable will perform as if it were a CAT 5e cable. Professionals have adapted CAT 6/7 as the main stream Ethernet because it runs a 1Gb to 10Gb were Cat 5e and all others do not.
 
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andy1249

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Yes all HDMI's are compatible, and yes the HDMI limit is 10.2Gbps. But 1.4 is different from 1.3 being that it is of higher quality cable and more reliable data transfer speed.

Now pretty much every connecter is backwards compatible yes, but that does not mean it will utilize the full potential of the newer configuration to achieve the best performance you must have the newer of the two adapters across the entire system. For example if my TV has a 1.3 HDMI adapter and my wire is HDMI 1.4 then the cable and the TV will never achieve better then the 1.3 specifications.

Presumably by now youve read Joe's links and know how incorrect all the above is , but just out of interest , where did you get all that?

From a shop sales assistant trying to shift a premium cable perhaps ?
 

JonathanMSTYoun

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Presumably by now youve read Joe's links and know how incorrect all the above is , but just out of interest , where did you get all that?

From a shop sales assistant trying to shift a premium cable perhaps ?

I'm a computer technician, I own TX Computer Express. Also if you read Joe's links they clearly support what I have already stated. 1.4 is a new standard, more reliable and better overall design and performance.

Please check your information before you attempt to correct others information!!!
 

Joe Fernand

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JonathanMSTYoun

I do hope you are not a WUM!

If you read the information linked to at HDMI.org there is nothing to back up your claims about HDMI cable quality and use of certain precious metals on contacts!

Andy1249 has a handle on HDMI that few of us can ever get near too so not the person who’s insight/knowledge you should be attacking.

If you and your employees are to advise customers on HDMI I’d suggest you maybe try and hire andy1249 to properly brief you on the ins and outs of HDMI rather than having a public spat with him.

Joe
 

JonathanMSTYoun

Standard Member
Here are some examples of supporting information strait from HDMI.org
New Features better quality:


"Will any of the new HDMI 1.4 features require a new cable?

The HDMI Ethernet Channel feature will require a new cable that supports this functionality, either a Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet or a High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet, depending on the maximum resolution to be supported. The Automotive Connection System will also employ a new class of cable, the Standard Automotive HDMI cable, which is designed specifically for automotive use. All of the other new HDMI 1.4 features will be compatible with the existing categories of cables.
Are HDMI 1.4 devices going to be backwards-compatible with older HDMI (v.1.0 - 1.3) devices?

Yes, devices built to the HDMI 1.4 specification will be fully backwards-compatible with existing HDMI devices and their features.
Can older HDMI (v.1.0 - 1.3) devices be firmware-upgraded to take advantage of the new features introduced in HDMI 1.4?

Probably not. Most of the new features introduced in HDMI 1.4 will require a new HDMI chip to enable, and cannot be upgraded via firmware." (HDMI :: Manufacturer :: HDMI 1.4 :: FAQ for HDMI 1.4)


Connector:


"Summary of Key Features and Benefits
Feature Benefit

  • Tinned Copper Braid and 100% Foil Shield for… Maximum immunity to RFI and EMI
  • Silver-plated copper conductors for… Wide bandwidth performance
  • 24k Gold-plated contacts for… Long-term dependability
  • Chrome-plated zinc alloy connector shells for… Unsurpassed mechanical integrity" (HDMI :: Press)
 

Joe Fernand

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Now find two bits of kit that are HEC compliant!

Millions of HDMI 'with Ethernet' cables in/on the market and not one of them actually carrying an Ethernet signal!!!

Joe
 

JonathanMSTYoun

Standard Member
Now find two bits of kit that are HEC compliant!

Millions of HDMI 'with Ethernet' cables in/on the market and not one of them actually carrying an Ethernet signal!!!

Joe


But as I said before this information is true, and this is supporting evidence from you own source.
 

andy1249

Distinguished Member
I'm a computer technician, I own TX Computer Express. Also if you read Joe's links they clearly support what I have already stated. 1.4 is a new standard, more reliable and better overall design and performance.

Please check your information before you attempt to correct others information!!!

I am an Electronics Engineer currently working in interface design , HDMI is one of my specialities , everything you have misread or indeed may be intentionally misrepresenting about HDMI cables in your posts above is incorrect , end of discussion.
 

JonathanMSTYoun

Standard Member
I was not looking for a battle, but as that is what this has become i have not seen any supporting evidence to back you statements wail at the same time I have given you evidence to support my professional experience and knowledge on the subject of cable configurations and specifications.
 

KUBBY

Standard Member
The OP was happy with the replies he had received several posts ago.

K.
 
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