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Plasma or Projector?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs Forum' started by straygoat, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. straygoat

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    Hello everyone

    I have just returned that Goodmans plasma tv that Argos are knocking out cheap - the pixelation on skin tones was doing my head in.

    Now, I have got about £1500-£1800 to spend on a new tv. I am wondering if it is possible to get a big plasma for this amount of money that doesn't have problems with skin tones. Does anyone have any ideas?

    My main priorities are picture quality and size of the unit. Sound should be good, but I don't need surround sound as the wife is mutton in one ear so it's lost on her.

    I've even considered getting a decent projector instead. What are the pros and cons of those? Are they noisy? I know most of them have fans built-in.

    LCD tvs are not an option as I watch a lot of football and it is awful on an LCD screen. All blurry and that.

    What do you guys recommend? I've heard good things about Panasonic and Hitachi plasma tvs...could i get one for about £1500 that wouldn't have the low res of the goodmans one and wouldn't suffer from the poor skin tones?

    Thanks!
     
  2. MAW

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    It's not the resolution that's the problem, it's just general crap-ness. Get away from that, and whilst you won't get perfection, you can get something very good indeed. starting with those 2 makers, have a look around, read some threads on them.
     
  3. straygoat

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    Ok, I'm thinking that I've got to go with Hitachi, Panasonic, or Pioneer...the rest just don't seem to cut the mustard.

    Which sets would you recommend for my budget (around 1.5k). I know i'm not going to be spoilt for choice at that end of the budget, but surely I can get something with a decent picture? It doesn't have to be 42", but the bigger the better really.
     
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    At 1.5 k you could get a PW6 panasonic. Last years model, but hell, who cares. You could get a sanyo Z2 and linked electric screen inside your budget too, but you need a dark-ish room to use it during the day. You'll have no problems with skin tones with that. Watch a lot of skin do you? Sorry, it had to be said.
     
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    You could probably just about make the PW7 mark for under £1.5k too if you've got Sky/NTL and don't need the tuner box, either 37" or 42" (I went for 42" originally then switched to 37" due to room size) - check these links:

    http://www.discountaudiovision.co.uk/acatalog/Pana_Plasma_Display.html

    http://www.buyyourav.com/product_details.asp?prodID=1357

    http://www.krishav.co.uk/store/prodView.asp?idProduct=999&idCategory=496

    All with free SCART board. I bought mine from buyyourav.com, great service.

    Oh, and if MAW offers you any advice - take it. I've dealt with the man behind the MAW and have come into contact with very few more customer-focussed people in my short time on this planet.

    Good hunting...
     
  6. straygoat

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    Pardon my ignorance, but what are the tuners and scart boards all about? I don't have SKY or NTL - I just watch digital tv through a freeview box. I'll need a plasma with 2 or 3 scarts - dvd, vid, possibly ps2.

    For the record, I do watch a fair amount of skin heavy features, yes! It was while watching one with the mrs that we decided to return the Goodmans screen.
     
  7. Stuart.Ainslie

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    I've just got a Panny PW7 after suffering 4 weeks of terrible skin tones with a Philips 9946.
    The difference is amazing - totally different league, even my wife commented on the difference in quality.

    I paid around £1800 for the PW7 with 2 input cards and a wall mount and then claimed back £250 from Barclaycard on their price promise scheme :smashin: - £1550 all in....
     
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    Hello again

    I've been looking at the buy your av site and found these within my budget:

    Panasonic TH42PW7
    Panasonic TH37PW7

    I'm guessing that these are better than a PW6 model? Is the only difference between these the screen size? To be honest, a 37" might suit me better than a 42".

    What else will I need to get with the plasma screen? Tv tuners? Speakers? Scart connections? With the Goodmans one I had, everything was included in the unit...is that not the case with these?
     
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    If you have a Freeview box or Sky, then you will not need a tuner box. You may need a Scart / Component / S-Video board to add other devices or just use the VGA input with a suitable lead.
    Add a set of reasonable speakers or just use a surround system if you already have one.
     
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    straygoat,

    You'd be better going for a projector, you could have fullsize porn ! :D

    Regards,

    Stan.
     
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    Apologies if this is a very newb-like question... But how do you get hold of these "Scart connection boards"? Will a trip to a local AV Supplier bear fruit? I'm intent on buying a PW7, how many Scart sockets does it have before moderation?

    I could use a total of 3 Scart connections for what I have in my room.
     
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    straygoat you need to get away from the bottom end of the plasma's cos as you say none of them cut the mustard, it really is money wasted rather than money saved. The models you are now looking at and MAW's advice will be multi-fold improvement over the Goodmans.

    The Hitachi is a funny one, some people like them and some people prefer them with the prefix *S*.

    However I must say that going the PJ route if you can accomodate it, is very desirable.

    Personally I run a plasma as a day to day telly and have a dedicated Home Cinema with multi projectors for movie/big sport viewings. Wouldn't have it any other way :)
     
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    I'm with Ekko there, I use a plasma for casual watching, switch to PJ for films. All switched through a scaler with dual outputs, both at 720p. Maybe compromise a bit on thr plasma, and have the best of both worlds. £3k could see you with both displays.
     
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    d0mj4y,

    The vast majority of the retailers who sell the screen also stock the terminal boards (although due to hilarious yet uncontrollable issues at Panasonic most of them are out of stock at the moment except the SCART boards, which are a bit average PQ-wise).

    If you go onto av-sales.com you can see pictures of all the terminal board options you can get for your screen, and they're roughly the same price - although interestingly the BNC Component board is cheaper from a lot of retailers and is probably one of the best ones for PQ...

    The only real difference between the 37" and 42" other than size is that the 37" comes with 2 slots, the 42" has 3 slots. But, unless you're planning to use a gazillion other devices, 2 in theory should be fine as that's in addition to the PC VGA slot anyway. So even if you don't use the VGA slot (which you should consider, by getting the JS-Tech RGB 2 VGA converter), you could connect a Quinto multi-SCART or just daisy chain your devices so you could fit them all into two terminals...

    You could ask the screen retailer to package your plasma with one SCART board and one BNC Component board, or other combinations, and they probably won't charge you for the first SCART board as they're usually bundled with one at the moment.

    Merry Xmas! (only one day late...)
     

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