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  1. thedonreturns

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    Ok I'm a bit new to this. But lots of manufacturers recommend that you go for a plasma if you want 40"+?

    Have LCD's overtaken the plasma or is it the other way round?

    I want to buy a tv for about £2k (46"). Should it be the Samsung M87 or a plasma?? :confused:
     
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    Having seen my brothers old samsung LCD (last years 32" model) (which wasn't overly bad) and compared that to my 50" LG plasma i can safely say i prefer the plasma overall to LCD.
    My brother has since sold his LCD and is the proud owner of a 42" plasma screen.

    Oh and if you are planning on spending £2k and you can get one to fit i would go for a 50" screen.
    My plasma i have is now for retail online at some stores for £1000 so you could in effect save yourself £1000 which seems logical to me.

    The 50" LGPC1DA is a good plasma screen and you cant go wrong at that price.

    Its up to you though, i would suggest a read through on the plasma forums to get a feel of what you want just as i did and ended up buying on peoples reccomendations here.

    Good Luck on your choice. :smashin:
     
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    at that price i'd go for a 50" pioneer plasma or a 50" panny, just more natural viewing for me. IMO the lcd image seems almost false on a lot of screens where the plasmas are slightly softer and more comfortable to watch...
     
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    Interesting. Here's me thinking LCD had won the war....

    Is there a perfect 1080/24p Plasma/LCD out there?
     
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    nothing perfect mate, the plasmas are 720p unless you up the budget to c.£3k... the cheapest brand 1080p lcd's seem to be sharp xd series - see the threads here for info. not overly hot on the lcds myself for previous reasons but the plasmas are significantly more
     
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    Over 37" forget LCD - because SD material (which is still likely most of what you watch) looks crap. Plasma is better but still not brilliant, but it will be at least two years before better technology for SD material is affordable.

    Take it from a happy 32" LCD owner who did a lot of window shopping. ;)
     
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    Yes it does look like the LCD's are bit rubbish when it comes SD tv.....Hmm should I buy a cheap tv now and wait a year or so for very good tv....
     
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    I am having a **** load of luck with LCD's - I'm seriously thinking of turning to the dark side!

    Reading the threads in the Plasma forums about the new 37"Panasonic plasma.

    It gets great reviews and my needs are purely for watching tv (sd and hd sky) in particular a lot of sport and upscaled DVD's. Not a gamer or need the panel for my PC.

    What do you think?

    I just have this niggling feeling in the back of my mind that the picture is not as sharp. I like colourful and sharp and can not understand this 'movie' videophile standard type settings.

    Cheers
     
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    If the Panny 37" PX70 had been available when I bought my LCD I probably wouldn't have.

    I wanted good SD reproduction and liked the idea of a plasma because the SD picture is better than LCD. But the Panny PX60 styling is so horrible I just couldn't put up with that silver nightmare in my front room.

    Now the PX70 looks almost exactly like my WLT68. :mad:

    I guess I should have waited but wanted to start watching HD.......still, I am happy with my TV.
     
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    Plasma for SD , and LCD for HD , if i was to get a large screen, 42" or above i think i`d go for a plasma, however i prefer a LCD for HD and pc use.
     
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    When you say prefer LCD for HD why is this?

    As you can see I do watch Sky HD and a lot of movies and sport.

    Are you saying that LCD's are better for this?

    I am thinking of 37" screen.

    Thanks
     
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    I do have to say that I haven't seen much HD on plasmas. But HD on my LCD is out of this world.
     
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    I guess because plasmas are mostly low res whilst LCDs are all higher res and some are full HD res - so you're not losing som much of the detail with an LCD.

    Plenty more factors to pic quality though and many prefer plasma's look despite the lower definition.
     
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    What are we talking here - I am going to be 8-10ft away from a 37" screen.

    All these different resolutions are all numbers to me and actually do not mean much.

    I've read there is not much point getting 1920 x 1080 for a 37" LCD as this would not really be noticeable?

    So 1366 x 768 compared to 1024 x 720?

    :lease:
     
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    For HD (Or SD) viewing Plasma wins every time.
    Or you could believe a review that states a Sharp Aquos as a good 'match' for a Fuji Plasma :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    Hmmm.....A professional review done in a lab enviroment by a reputable website or a Plasma fanboy? :rolleyes:

    Well i know who i'd believe! :D
     
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    SD -> plasma
    HD , PC , game consoles -> Full HD LCD

    HD Ready LCDs are better than plasmas for PC use and games and almost as good for SD but you have to pay a lot more to get a decent one than for a plasma with a equivalent PQ.

    The choice is yours.
     
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    Thank you Yannis

    You are right - the choice is mine.

    I am extremely new to Plasma technology but have owned LCD's.

    I do not play games or use it for my PC.

    So my only concern is Sky HD as I know that the plasma will deal with SD better.

    Now resolution by itself is just one small element among other things such as black levels, motion handling, clarity, picture noise, colour reproduction, response times and viewing angles.

    So is Sky HD better on full HD LCD or Plasma.

    This is a hypothetical question as my budget will not stretch to a 1080 LCD at the moment, so would your answer change if I said please compare

    Panasonic TH37PX70 and Samsung LE37R88BD

    Thanks

    Matt
     
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    Not just one review mate. Many a review has given the Sharps higher scores than equivalent Plasma panels. I tend to believe professional reviews rather than folks with a bias unable to accept the truth. Anyway, the review doesn't say the sharps a good match for the Fuji, it actually states it's better. And as I said, no plasma Can touch the Sharps when playing 1080p material.
     
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    Scoob. A good point, well made.
     
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    It is confusing though, because then you get the two reviews for the 37PX70 that everyone by now probably knows I'm farting around deciding about and they are both very high scorers indeed...

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2007/05/02/Panasonic-Viera-TH-37PX70-37in-Plasma-TV/p1

    Trusted reviews - 9/10 PQ, 10/10 Value

    http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/Panasonic_th37px70.htm

    HDTVorg Make that 5/5 PQ, 5/5 Value, A whopping 93% overall shining report

    It's tough for us new buyers without getting flack for mentioning the unfavourable opposite technology in the vice-versa forums. We usually get a black eye from a fanboy in the process. lol Pitty us poor deciders!

    Edit - Actually I've seen reports from even better labs that rate the Aquos as uninspiring so-so performance making matters worse for us and highlighting how it may actually be best not even to trust the experst! At least the above two PX70 reports seem to concur.
     
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    The best anyone can do. Is to read as many professional reviews as possible, and than work out some kind of average. The Sharp has had many such reviews, and the vast majority have been very positve, including reviews from C/net (http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/televisions/0,39030219,49286421,00.htm) & Which Home Cinama, aswell as the Trusted Reviews website.

    I'm sure the Pany is a capable performer, but as I said, for full Hd, I think 1080p LCD's are the way to go.
     
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    I agree there.

    Here's another fly in the ointment...

    What Hi-Fi Suond and Vision say thus:

    Aquos 37XD1e 3/5 - Very average - average spec, average picture, average looks.

    Aquos 46XD1e 4/5 - great looks and some real areas of picture expertese.

    I'm beginning to wonder why we bother with these mags then, I'm sure some reviews are 'bought' anyway - specifically Sony ones. And I'm a Sony fan!
     
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    To be fair, although from the same range the 2 Sharp Panels you've mentioned are made in different factories, under different spec. So that may account for the difference in quality.
     
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    I dont consider myself a boy or a 'fanboy'.
    I own a 1080p LCD and a few 'low res' plasmas. Just stating my opinion.
    To me the diffreence is like chalk & Cheese.
    The mere suggestion that a Sharp Aquos is superior to a Fujitsu plasma is like saying an Aiwa boom box is superior to a Linn hifi.

    I disagree. Reviews, professional or otherwise, should all be taken with a pinch of salt.
    The best anyone can do is judge with their own eyes.
     
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    Enough said by the man, and he is quite right too :lesson:
     
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    So what about my question? - I never mentioned the Sharp (very nice looking panel it is though!)
     
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    It seems that most professional installers to recommend the Fujitsu 58 series over any LCD unless you have a very bright room or use it for mostly PC use.

    I saw these at CEDIA last year and they definitely looker better than any Sharp LCD there.

    I think you'll probably find a number of reviews stating the Fujitsu panels have better PQ than the Sharps. The new Aviamo range is supposed to be the business, but costs a fair bit more.

    However, in general plasma panels have much better PQ than plasma TVs as your money goes on picture processing instead of speakers and a tuner.

    So while an LCD may be comparable to a plasma TV, in general the best PQ come from plasma panels (Fujitsu 58 series, Panasonic PF9, PH9).

    However the Fujitsu Aviamo LCD is supposed to be great, but once again very pricey.

    So whether to go for plasma or LCD depends on your budget and usage patterns.
    If you have an unlimited budget and watch mainly in the evening then the Fujitsu Aviamo will be your choice.
    If you use it for mostly daytime viewing in a brighty lit room or conservatory I would go for LCD.
     
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    as i work in a high end home cinema shop and we sell the sharp and the panny, im in a position to put the two side by side and spend as much time as i want comparing them.
    my final verdict, well for a start the black levels on the sharp when standing off angle are totaly crap and the amount of noise on sdtv is unbelievable.
    the new tosh range is better than this!
    im yet to see a 37 or 42" lcd that looks better than a plasma on SD!

    I find some of these reviews in magazines and on the net so full of bulls"*t
    and the thing that makes me laugh is that they always go on about how amazing the tv looks in hd!!!, 99% of tv s look good in HD so hows about reviewing them how most people watch them most of the time,on sd

    this is all my own opinion of course and im not biased as i do own a the new panny 32"lcd
     

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