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Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Desticado, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. Desticado

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    Hi folks.

    I posted an innitial question a few weeks back but now im ready to spend.

    Was looking at getting a PW6 for use in a shop window display powered by a PC source to display powerpoint slideshows. Well it seems that the PW6 is now permanently out of stock (with the PW7 soon to go the same way???) so im up for suggestions, but im likely to pluck for a PW7.

    Will the PW7 take a VGA connection right out of the box?

    Also im going to place the screen on a stand where people will be walking behind it. Anyone got any reccommendations on ways to 'fix' the stand down to make it more stable.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this
     
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    suggest you go for a Unicol Pro commercial mount! and yes the PW6/7 have VGA outof box just connect to a PC and away you go mate!
     
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    Thanks HD. You really are the plasmameister.

    My heart is telling me to go for the PW7 though my wallet keeps pointing me back at the goodmans screen. Yes I know its not got a great pic but its not going to be in my house :D
     
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    3 reasons for Panny over goodmans
    a) If it looks crap what will customer think?
    b) Panny are bomb proof re screen burn which the Goodmans is likely to suffer
    c) residual value on a panny will be better
     
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    one reason to get the goodmans...

    I wont be tempted to take it home to put in the lounge and hence have to buy two screens....

    lol
     
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    thought you had a Plasma!!!!! (could buy an NEC VR5 or pair of them...I think AV-sales may have an Exdemo one going cheap!)
     
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    The PFL would be fine but it looks a bit 'wobbly' which leaves me looking at the VS1000 though the costs all start to add up...

    Provided the poles are detachable on the VS1000 (which I presume they are) I could use a circular saw bit to drill holes in the window counter giving a good asthetic and total stability.
     
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    I've got a 36" Tosh CRT (zp18p I think) at home. Does me okay though im getting increasingly tempted to upg to a plasma at home. Used ones are going on Ebay for about £400 so would have an 'egg' to put towards the new screen and I know my wife would love to be shot of the big ol CRT.
     
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    personally i think the VS1000 stand would be ideal, the compact bolt down base under wooden plinth or have you thought about ceiling POLE mount?
    Order code: CP2/1000/PLW/PS1
    Price Ex VAT: £278.10
    Fair bit cheaper!
     
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    what supplier would you reccommend? Did a search on google but couldnt find anything near the price you've quoted.

    Thanks for the Help HD.
     
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    after a bit more research and reading other threads, im now at the following decision on the Panny.

    123electircals - PW7B - £1,399 (with stand and scart)
    av-sales - PWD7B - £1,525

    HD, you reccommended the NEC VR5. You reccommend it as better or as an alterntative.

    I guess I should point out that im very tempted to get a PW7 for my home as well, maybe upgrade my Denon 3803 to a 3805 and put the 3803 in the shop. Sigh... too many decisions and WAY too many temptations. Think I'll just stick to sorting out the screen for the shop first...

    ...unless of course AV-sales will do me a deal on two screens and a 3805 :D
     
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    I was quoting the prices for stands from unicol site (ex vat) the NEC has 2 yr warranty and for a signange display its less than panny video perfomance isnt a huge issue and has a couple of things up on the panny....AS you are in Kent i would see what AV-sales can do for you on a deal on 2-3 screens ;)
     
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    HD when you did your screen comparison did you have the chance to compare the PW7/PW7D/PW7HD alongside each other?

    Particularly interested in the comparisson of the first two, tempted by the HD for home but reading a few issues on brightness fluctuations in side bars on the HD here.

    Thanks again for all your help.
     
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    just been to Bluewater looking in John Lewis etc...

    another option got thrown into the mix for a shop window display.
    Dixons had a preowned 'Techwood' plasma, with stand etc for £995. Which less the Vat is about £830.

    It might not be perfect but for that price its got me thinking.
     
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    Plasma Display (any make) + Shop Window + Daylight = no image/impact during daylight hours.

    You have to be very sure this is going to work - a 2500 ANSI LCD Projector + Daylight Rear Projection screen may be a far better bet for similar money.

    And whatever you go with assume some nutter will try and steal it - bolt it down and (especially if you go with a Plasma) ensure the window has grilles.

    Best regards

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    PS Buy something soon - IT kit has tax incentives until the end of this month!!! :)
     
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    Thanks for the tips Joe.

    Im 'hoping' that the plasma should be fine as the window the plasma will be in does not take direct sunlight and will be used to display large text and images.

    Have already pondered on the security aspect (its an IT Shop/office), will be checking out the thickness of the glass and will have to consider some kind of shutter system most likely.
     
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    Some of the Unicol mounts include additional security features - the PTX (£224 ex vat) has a built in locking mechanism.

    Unicol also provide the PCL (£297.70 ex vat) Anti Vandal covers.

    All of these can be combined with Pole, Wall, Ceiling or Swing Out mounts to provide a pretty secure installation.

    Brief you Multimedia designer about the potential for screen burn and definitely look at using the Panasonic's on-board screen savers on a daily basis; go for a 7 Series over a 6 Series (the newer model has phosphors that are more resistant to screen burn).

    PowerPoint's OK for Digital Signage but not great - have a look at SCALA InfoChannel Designer for something that's far quicker and far better at producing POI multimedia.

    InfoChannel Designer 1 is very good and relatively inexpensive - see http://www.scala.com/designer/

    InfoChannel Designer 3 is better, scaleable (if you fancy displaying your info in more than one location) and includes scheduling tools - see http://www.scala.com/products/designer.html

    Best regards

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    Thanks for that Joe.
    More good advice.

    My multimedia designer is me, the installer is me and the content designer is me... You get the picture :D

    InfoChannel Designer looks great but the pricing point is a little more than modest for my budget at the moment giving everything else I'm having to outlay at the moment to set this place up.

    I'll download the trial version and have a play though as its sounds very nice.
     
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    Hello Desticado

    Who makes the Tea and does the Washing up?

    InfoChannel Designer is a breeze to run and so much quicker than anything else - though as you say you pay a few Euros for the pleasure.

    Driving InfoChannel from a Database is fun - you can keep your messages up to date and ensure what you have in stock/on offer etc gets highlighted.

    Best regards

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    the PWD7 and PHD7 yes they were interspaced with an NEC, and for home use the PHD7 is better (£1000) better is up to your eyes......

    AS joe says whether its a crap plasma or a good one its a serious security risk (one your insurers may not look kindly on in the event of a break in) and with the Tax incentive BUY a PHD7 for the shop (and then sell it to your self second hand in 3 months time for 20% of the cost! ;)
     
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    ...I couldnt possibly think of doing such a thing. Tony Blaire needs every penny in taxation he can lay his hands on for the Billion pounds worth of military helicoptors that cant fly to look for the weapons of mass destruction that dont exist... :D


    HD, did you notice any of the brightness fluctuation issues that others here have mentioned on the PHD7?


    Im not quite as 'all over the place' as I might appear on this thread. Its just cause I have different needs for the screen in the shop and the spare screen in the shop that will be stored on the wall of my lounge.... :D
     
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    nope didnt see it i thought iut was a faulty capicitor value on S-video boards (mainly the whinging form US on AVSforum)..............May be wrong bit not seen it my self...... the extra brightness and 2yr warranty of the NEC are useful but the burn resistance of the panny is grand (get your self a cheap TADL warranty for the panny)
     
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    Tadl?
     
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    stopped in at John Lewis today in the hope they might have a P*7 in any form that I could get them to do a price match on (and a 5 year warrenty) but they dont appear to stock them at bluewater any more.
     
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    JL dont stock Panel plasma (LG PX11 is closest you will get, and TADL are http://www.tadlassist.com/ (might be useful for business too..)
     
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    It might be worth reading the small print of any Warranty or Extended Warranty your offered by a Retailer on a Retail product regarding 'commercial use' - there may be limits on how many hours per day your covered for.

    The TADL Assist warranties cover both Commercial and Consumer use!

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