Thought I had pretty much made up my mind to go for the Tosh32 based on the good reviews I had been reading here. However, I'm now wondering whether to go for the Pioneer after all as nobody seems to have the Tosh in stock and there have recently been one or two dodgy reviews about it, eg. poor sound, unrecognised discs, more features than you really need making it too complex (I'm not very technically minded, as you have probably gathered). I have read through all of the reviews on this forum and although there is heaps of good stuff on the Toshiba, there doesn't seem to be much on the Pioneer. Has anyone had experience of using both machines. Could somebody briefly list the pros and cons of each - what does the Toshiba do that the Pioneer doesn't, and vice-versa. The most important things to me are good quality sound/video on recording and playback and basic editing, eg. deleting unwanted camcorder segments. Many thanks.