Both pretty much the same price now and, although the mags seems to like the Pioneer, dealers are telling me that the video upsampling and digital audio delay function in the Denon make it more future proof should I go for Plasma later (currently CRT). Ilike the idea of the auto set-up with the microphone in the Pioneer but am stuck as to which one to buy. Yes - I'll audition both but can anyone help on the useless features vs must haves argument of these two receivers? Also, on DVD, am considering the Pioneer 656 and the Denon 2800.2 and 2900. I know they're at different price points, but what's the general consensus on these three? Life was so much easier when I bought my "Naim everything" stereo set-up!!!