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Pioneer -v- Yamaha -v- Denon

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by shaktti, Dec 29, 2003.

  1. shaktti

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    I've also been looking into what receiver to purchase. My current system comprises of the following;

    B&W 603S2 (front)
    B&W LCR600S2 (cntr)
    B&W ???? (rears)

    I am able to purchase a Pioneer 2011 for a mere £600. I was about to purchase this against the Denon 3803 but then came along a review of the Yamaha RX-V1400RDS.

    I have been warned that the combination of my B&W's and Pioneer will result in a "in-your-face" setup. This, I don't want.
    This receiver will undertake music and movie tasks.

    One other thing. Can you bi-amp using the (if un-used) rear centre speakers as you can with the Pioneer?

    Any suggestions..........please?
     
  2. 337GUS

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    I ran the 2011 with 4 x 603 S2's and 1 x LCR6 S2 for several months. I found it excellent with movies, detailed and exciting with very good lows and mid range but I admit a bit harsh in the treble, this was mainly noticable with 2 channel music. I used an Arcam A85 for music which I found a good match for the 603 S2's and easy to integrate via it's AV feature.

    I would also consider a Harmon Kardon 5550 as I had a chance to listen to this a couple of times after I bought the 2011 and consider it much better than the 2011 for music and similar for movies. I prefered the 2011 to the 3803.

    As far as I know only the 2011 can biamp, but perhaps someone can confirm this?

    I think the 1400 like other Yamaha's can use the rear centres for extra front effects speakers but I don't think it lets you biamp the front mains. Yamaha have had the option of using extra front effects speakers for several years in conjunction with their own specialised DSP modes, I used to have them with my 3090 in the mid 90's.

    Have you looked at the Pioneer AX5i?

    Gus
     
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    Thanks Chris, Gus.

    I think I will forget the 2011. The AX5I is alittle rich for my blood. Another new receiver has sprung to mind however, Sony 3000 (replacees 333) or 5000 (replaces 555 I think). Have you heard these at all?
     
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    In my opinion it does look pretty nice :)

    I´ve heard that some people who have audiotioned it have really like the sound of the new Digital Amp ES-series. So I would recommend you to go and listen the 3000ES.
     
  7. shaktti

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    Guys,

    So far, thanks for all your comments.

    Somewhere on this forum, I read that the Yamy 1400 produces a rather tinny sound when listening to SACD or DVD Audio DVD's. Does anyone out there have any regrets purchasing this receiver?
     
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    shaktti,

    Just to let you know, there are over 200 happy owners in the 3 major US forums there, and not so many over here yet, probably due to the big price of £800 and the lack of units in UK (in the states they have been able to get it for well below £400).


    If you want to know the opinions on 1400 go to www.avsforum.com, www.hometheaterforum.com and www.hometheaterspot.com

    You can get the 1400 from German site www.hificomponents.de for around £535 delivered. Loads of Scandinavians buy from them with no hassle what so ever.
    You also get the 2 year factory warranty which UK brand office should honour, as this is a EU directive (already implemented in the rest of EU, therefore cross country buying is a big business now), but UK hasn't implemented this directive yet and as a result the agents here won't honour any European 2 year warranties as it eats their profits, maybe that is why not so many dare to order from Germany yet, so we lose out here atm I'm afraid.

    Wasabi
     

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