Pioneer PDP-427XD, Samsung PS42Q7HD, or wait 6mths?

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  1. iwantabigscreen

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    Here's my dilemma, either to buy a Plasma TV now or wait 6 months (I was initally going to wait 6 months... until I started looking now!).

    If I decide to buy now, should I pay around the £900 mark for one or round the £1500 mark for one.

    If I decide to go £900, I think I'd opt for the Samsung PS42Q7HD £880 delivered.

    If I decide to go £1500, I think I'd go for the Pioneer PDP-427XD. I can purchase this from Richer Sounds Belfast (www.richersounds.ie) for £1500 with a free table top stand and they have offered a black gloss unit to set it on for £100.

    I'll be mainly watching SD through Sky and the odd DVD. Although I do intend to get SKY HD within the next year. If I buy now, is it worth going for the higher priced Plasma? Another forum member is wanting a Plasma for the same sort of use and is opting for the Samsung.

    Also, I would hope that whichever Plasma I buy will do for at least 10 years and I may wish to connect a PC to it at some stage and the usual Home Cinema peripherals.

    Anyone know if much is going to happen with Plasmas in the next 6 months? Will fully compatible 1080p HD Plasmas be readily available and reasonably priced (£1500?) by then? Could the Pioneer PDP-427XD drop in price by much in this time frame?

    I have found this forum of great help so far, thank you for the very interesting reading.

    All help is much appreciated.
     
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    Not an expert by any means and I'll probably get corrected and shot down but that is a great price for the Pioneer and I strongly believe that it won't come down much in price in the next 6 months. There seems to be a high demand for these Plasmas as folk start cottoning on to them with the help of websites such as this.

    Also, the full 1080p Plasmas (well the Pioneer at least) seem to be retailing for well over £3k and I would be gobsmacked if they come down much over the next 6 months.

    Plus, I believe unless you are looking for a screen 50" plus then 1080p wont matter one iota.

    Its the same as any technology, there is always something bigger and better round the corner, at some point you have to take the plunge.

    I have had the same dilema and have just purchased the Pio today, I can't wait and really believe that I have made the right choice as it will be at least 3 years before I look for another one and by that time I think things will be clearer on the HD and the 1080p front.

    If you are looking for a 42" either now or in 6 months, I would be going for it now, as I say, thats a great deal on the Pioneer!
     
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    Many Thanks Slugsy01, good sound advice. I am swaying towards buying the Pioneer within the next week! Also plenty of help and info on this site for it... hopefully I'll be able to give something back to these forums in time...!
     
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    Why wait? If you've got the cash and its something you REALLY want, go for it!

    In 6 months you may be asking 'buy now or wait 6 months?'

    I took about 4 months to really make up my mind which plasma to buy and I've never been happier
     
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    Bump!

    Anyone one else got an opinion that might help here?

    I think I am going to buy now unless anyone thinks otherwise. Also, is it really worth paying the extra money for the Pioneer PDP-427XD over the Samsung PS42Q7HD?

    I confirmed with Empire Direct that they will deliver the Samsung to Northern Ireland for £60 so will cost me £909 in total

    The Pioneer will cost me £1499 with a free pedestal stand from Richer Sounds, Belfast but I don't plan on using this stand.

    I think I'll buy a floating stand from Currys for £149 online.

    If the picture difference between the two plasmas is minimal and I can get away with the lack of connections on the Samsung I could be tempted by it. The extra money could be spent elsewhere... the noise issue with the pioneer is worrying me a bit as well!
     
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    Im in the same dilemma tbh with the exact two Plasmas. I've personally decided to plump for the Samsung after weighing the two sets up over the last few months. If being honest, i'd love the Pioneer but for me im not gaining enough from it to warrant the extra £££ spent. At £850 the Samsung its a set I can afford quite happily and ticks all my boxes, an extra HDMi would have been nice though. I feel that as long as I get 3 years out of it then im happy, ive never kept a TV longer than that anyway!!.
    My own feelings are that im not a specialist in PQ, I can appreciate a good picture as the next man but when it comes down to specifics I have no idea! Ive seen both sets with good feeds from Freeview, Sky HD and even an XBOX 360 and with both sets was blown away. Im sure i'd be happy with either in my home, especially after coming from a Rear projection Toshiba. To summarise, if I was being given a free plasma i'd take the Pioneer. After weighing up what i'd get after paying nearly £700 more for the Pioneer with my own cash then the results for me are not worth it. Samsung at £850 seems a great value overall buy! My 2p worth. Cheers!
     
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    Unless I'm wrong, isn't the Richer Sound Pioneer not a 4270XA which doesn't have digi tuner, only 1 HDMI and no PC input? :confused:

    Edit, its me stupid yellow brain, I was looking at the UK website, wonder if they will do the same deal in the UK
     
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    Couldn't believe it neither but OP is correct. Somehow they are doing the 427XD for 1499.
    So with 3 year warranty it is around 1650. Not bad at all
     
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    I have seen these plasmas and the difference in PQ seems to be not all that much at all. Personally I couldn't justify spending the difference for minimal gain.

    Like other's I'd prefer the Samy to have 2 x HDMIs though.

    My view is that if I can save the extra £600 now then in 3 years when 1080p sets are the norm and the panels are much better than they are now that £600 will go a long way toward getting me a new model, given the usual price drops and spec rises in the world of technology.

    I suppose I'm saying that my next panel will be the one that I'd expect to last for a long time, so I don't want to overspend on this one.

    Be honest - wouldn't you rather have a 1920x1080p panel than a 1024x720p one? So why not save your hard earned for when those are affordable. Just my view of course, each will have their own thoughts on this.

    I just have to wait 1-2 months for reasons I won't go into, then if circumstances are the same the PS42Q7HD will be mine.
     
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    Hi iwantabigscreen - I want one as well, specifcally the Pio. Can you tell me if you saw the stand? Did you have a choice of black or silver?
    I'm only 15 miles from Belfast, and would go there tomorrow if I thought I could get the black stand with it.
    TIA

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    I paid £2250 for my Pioneer 436XDE (the 427xd should be better for PQ) 11 mths ago and consider it to be one of the best investments I have ever made - it has already paid for itself in the amount of pleasure it has given in watching Freeview or Sky HD (it is no good with analogue broadcasts). I can not fault the picture quality so am expecting this set to last me a long time.

    If you wait another 6 mths someting else will be on the horizon !
     
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    I didn't see the pedestal stand but the advertisement stated that it was gloss black.
     
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    A couple of questions for those that can help...

    I like my picture to show colours up well with good contrast and brightness, some Plasmas to me look 'dull' and others are exactly what I want. I know the Pioneer can provide this sort of picture, can the Samsung as well?

    Also, will one HDMI port suffice if I am wanting to connect up SkyHD, a HD / updcaling DVD player and surround sound? Forgive my ignorance but I am very much a beginner when it comes to setting up this sort of system. I've only used scarts on a CRT before!

    Thanks
     
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    I have no experience of the Samsung so can not comment.

    If the TV has only one HDMI socket you can buy switching devices so that you can have 2 HDMI devices connected to one HDMI socket. A year ago when I looked they cost about £200 so I decided to pay the extra and get a TV with 2 HDMI sockets.

    You say that you plan to have 2 HD sources - Sky HD and DVD. The Sky HD box I have can output HD via HDMI or component. So if the TV has a HDMI connection and also component HD as well you would be able to connect Sky HD via HD component, and your DVD via HDMI.

     
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    I was deciding between the Pio and the Sammy too...
    Until I saw the new Sammy in shop!
    The new (all black finish) Samsung PS42P7H model has two HDMI slots, 9-in-2 multi-memory card slot / USB / PictBridge and is available for less then 1600 euro at onlineshops over here in Holland.
    Brilliant picture, I have my eyes on this one....
    Full HD like the new Sharp and Sony LCD's is nice but the difference at 3 meters distance is really small and only visible with an 1080 signal.
    And you won't have the natural bright colors and contrast a plasma will give you...
     
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    I wonder how long it'll be before the PS42P7H hits the UK?? If it's less than 1600euro online for ordering in Holland then I'd hope to get it over here for £1100.

    Too many dilemmas with this Plasma buying business!!
     
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    Is it a 'piano gloss' black or a flat looking black??
     
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    I agree - it's a real headache deciding what to do and wondering whether you should wait or jump into the market.

    I personally think that because HD sources have aonly been available in the UK for less than a year that it has taken time for the HD panel market to grow for the UK, and until volume of sales goes up prices don't come down. I really do anticipate that technology will stride forward and prices will come down to a greater extent in 2007 than they did in 2006.

    I know people who bought panels early for a premium say they aren't bothered because they've had a lot of good viewing out of them. But personally if I bought a panel now for £1500 only to see it plummet to £750 by the end of the year I'd be a bit gutted. This is another reason why I don't want to spend over a grand on a panel.

    I admit that the new Sammy does look like a nice option when it hits the UK, also I think it may push down the price of the PS42Q7HD to under £700 within 2 months of the P7HD being launched.

    Has anyone tried SkyHD through HDMI and component and can relate to us if they can see the difference? I'd like a panel with 2 x HDMI but if SkyHD looks as good through component then it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Totally agree with you Loobster, alot of people up to now have been thinking along the lines of why buy a HD Plasma when there isn't that much HD content to watch on TV yet. Once there is, almost everybody will be wanting one! Price will then reflect this in a positive way for the buyer.

    If I bought the Samsung PS42Q7HD now for £900 then the 42P7HD came out here in 2 months and pushed the price of the 42Q7HD down to £700 a month later I'd be gutted like yourself! I have always intended on waiting until mid 2007 to get a Plasma but I am getting itchy feet!

    I suppose the sensible thing to do is wait for more HD TV content, for prices to stabilise to a certain degree and to keep up the research until then. Easier said than done, I was originally going to buy a Plasma at the start of 2005 and have held off until now!
     
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    Wow LOL, if you have been wanting a plasma for 2 years you really do have a lot of patience! I just have a feeling that in 2 or 3 months the Q7HD will be £700, then it will probably be the best value panel in the UK. I don't think I'll be able to resist it at that price.

    I'm getting itchy too though, there is some decent stuff on SkyOneHD now and I already have SkyHD. Battlestar Galactica starts in HD on Tuesday and Lost and 24 will be in HD this season too. I also watch the footy a lot. So for me, there's quite a bit of HD content already that I'd like to watch.
     
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    The P7H has the same glossy finish and design as the Q7H, main difference is that the chrome strip is now black too.
    And you have the memorycardslots and USB at one side extra...
    The Q7H is now online less then 1300 euro over here.
    The P7H entered the market here and in Germany in november last year...
    I don't expect such massive pricedrops for the future as we had in the last year.
     
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    Things like this will always drop in price, in fact Id say they already have, big branded plasmas for £800 that was unheard of until recently.

    I went for the Sam 42Q7, its fine but I would not rave about it like its the best thing ever, like some of the Pio owners do.
     
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    I currently have the samsung 42 Q7, and i have just returned the pioneer 4270xd, so iv`e had both. The sammy is a decent set and can be bought for 793 delivered from oxmy.com i think it is, my mate got one, it`s fine. I got mine from play for 870 delivered. i had a pio but it had bad green flashes when playing 360 games, something to do with the green phospors(?) not keeping up with the red and blue ones, dirty screen and a funny `noise` in the picture. The pio looked stunning with it`s built in free view though, miles better than sky, but i wasnt prepared to got through 3 or 4 to get a good one. I miss it, it was stunning, just had one really bad fault i couldn`t live with-green flash. Read the pio 427 owners thread to see what people think.The sammy is ok, and i`m pretty happy with it, but it too has niggles, but, and it`s a big but, it`s almost half the price.
     

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