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Pioneer dv575 or Denon 1720?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by clarkyb, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. clarkyb

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    as title really,

    the pioneer plays sacd's and dvd-a buty what is it like compared to the denon in terms of picture quality through both componant and rgb scart/s-video and sound quality of 5.1 in dvd's and sacd's and stereo with normal cd's

    thanks, cost is not an issue btw, but i believe they are the same price? also does the pio have a plastic or aluminium front panel
     
  2. Wayne Moule

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    In my experience and from what I've read, go for the Pioneer, no picture or sound drop outs and still a seamless layer change.

    The Pioneer has an all metal construction.
     
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    cool, pioneer it is then, thanks
     
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    I loved the player to start with (14 months ago) as it compared favourably to my previous player a JVC. However a few issues have since become apparent and if I ever buy another player I'd want to improve on the following:

    1. DVD Audio
    Have encountered problems playing high-end discs:
    - Sinatra Live at the Sands (Advanced Resolution, surround sound). Sound plays fine for 1 track, but when next track starts the audio breaks up. Jumping to the start of individual tracks gets round the problem, but you can't play the record from start to finish.
    - Talking Heads (Advanced resolution audio on DualDisc). Selecting the Advanced Res (DVD) side of the DualDisc freezes the player, and it needs to be unplugged to reactivate it.
    - Beck, Guero DVD. Subtitle menu bar remains up for the duration of the album.
    I've heard these problems are specific to this model. Certainly the Talking Heads freeze isn't an issue w/ Denon machines.

    2. Noisy Menus
    Loading discs and accessing menus produces a loud grating noise.
    The player is quiet while playing discs though.

    3. Scan Lines
    Very prominent on 16:9 films (as noted elsewhere on this forum) esp. when it's a very bright scene. Apparently this is a common SCART problem afflicting other Pioneer models

    Despite all this I still feel this is a great value player (I paid £118 from Richer Sounds). I guess it just raised the bar for me.
     
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    Would just like to say that I haven't encountered any of the problems Orfy mentions on my Pioneer 575A ("grating sounds" isn't normal - a faulty unit perhaps?)
     
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    Grate sounds are though... :D

    I'll get me coat... :suicide:
     
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    What's this problem about Scan Lines, as I can't find anything about this?

    I still don't know how it does Seamless Layer Changes, apart from a Chapter change is almost instant and it could be just the speed it does this.
     
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    i have just got a 575A and it is ace :thumbsup:
     
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    PJTX100: I notice you have a Pio 575 and an Oppo.

    Which do you favour? Do you use one to watch certain titles over the other?

    I'm torn. I want to try upscaling but hear nothing but good things about component for the Pio (plus it's cheaper).

    Gah!
     
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    ok pioneer all the way or shall i audition it against the denon? im trying to work out if it will be cheaper to order from the richersounds site at £130 or to take to train to birmingham and get one for the £100 quoted in what hi fi
     
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    Always audition for yourself - don't take other people's word for it - after all, you're the one who is going to spend the money and, more importantly, watch it.

    Best of luck with your choice.

    Cheers,

    Martin.
     
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    thats a good point martin
     
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    You're welcome.

    Cheers,

    Martin.
     
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    just baught a 1720 off the forum, i already tested one at 7oaks and found it very good so im sorted for a dvd player now, i'll tell you what i think of it as soon as i get it :cool:
     
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    I tend to use the Oppo now to be honest, but the difference is not significant. The Pio produces a cleaner pic (probably because I switch BNR on 'caus it works so well on the Pio) but the Oppo just shades it for sheer detail. But it is a more expensive machine and the the Pio is a better bargain (at £99). The Pio also remembers up to 5 discs (an essential feature for some). Latest formware on the Oppo has a 1 disc memory.

    The Oppo through component is pants by the way. Not a patch on the Pio...PJ
     
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    Thanks for that. I'm still edging towards the Oppo mainly as i want to see first hand what upscaling is capable of plus i figured i'll use my HDMI port for the Oppo, X360 via component and my Mac via VGA into my Sony KDLS32A12.

    So not faffing around with leads and what have you.
     

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