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Pioneer DV-868AVi or Denon DVD-2910?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by guyb, Jun 9, 2005.

  1. guyb

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    Which one stall I go for?

    I want the one with the best picture quailty via HDMI (with scaling to 720p or 1080i) but music (SACD/DVDA/CD) performance is also important.

    Thanks

    Guy
     
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    The 868 plays every dvdr-/+ disc ive thrown at it. And the Pic is excellent.
     
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    Tricky..overall the 868 is the better player as its £1k initial price tag suggests. Picture wise it is superb via HDMI - very detailed, with loads of options to tweak the picture on HDMI. Sonically, slightly more forward than the Denon but neither is a slouch. If I were choosing one now, the 868 would be the one for me - but I already have one!

    Cheers.

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    Not seen either of them, but from past experiance with my pioneers and denon's......DENON all the way.
    And for another £20 you could get the so much better 3910.
    Imagine watching a film on the denon and never haveing that bloody annoying layer change.
    I think you would be happy with what ever one you buy, but for me it would deff be the denon and thats only because ( and i've said it time and time again on here ) i hate that stupid layer change... :eek: :eek:
     
  5. Bristol Pete

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    Never noticed it on my 868............?!?!?

    NO problems at all.
     
  6. guyb

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    OK - so what is the difference between the 3910 and the 2910.

    Is it worth spending the extra?
     
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    The prices I have at the moment are:

    Pioneer 868AVi = £600
    Denon 2910 = £510
    Deono 3910 = £800
     
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    Like me, you're obviously keen to have a good quality scaling function. However, beware 'Macroblocking' - an effect seen with certain scaling chipsets, and commented-on in my earlier thread:
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217728
    - and a number from others.

    Seems the current Denon chipset has had a number of poor reports - whereas the Pio's has not. :(
     
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    Pioneer 868AVi = £600.00

    I think this wouyld be a good match to your amp, both sonically and cosmetically.

    Pete.
     
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    Thats cheaper than i saw....although i only looked at 1 web site.
    AVland.co.uk.
    Pio 868 = £699.95
    Denon 3910 = £719.95
     
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    It obviously does not annoy you as it does me, as it is there on your 868.
    My mate has the 868 and he only started noticeing it after i told him about it.
    I stopped buying pioneer because of it.....thought they would have sorted it by the 656a, but not to be.
    I still have a 565 as a back up player and my kids have all got 360's.
    I think poineer make very good players and i would have stayed with them if they had sorted it.
     
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    Buy it!

    Thats just a cracking price and is well worth the money. Awesome machine via HDMI :thumbsup:
     
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    Unless Denon have done anything different since I auditioned their players alongside the 868 - then I'd personally go for the Pioneer (infact, I DID!).

    The 868 is now a proven player, with non of the firmware headaches that have alledgedly plagued Denon in the past.

    The proof of the pudding (as always), is in the eating, so try to get a demo on both & preferably together.

    Each to his/their own, but the layer change is a non issue to me.
     
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    Hi All

    I end up going for the Denon 3910!

    I have to say - I am very impressed.

    The picture quality via RGB scart is stunning however I can't really demo the picture quality / feature until my new HD ready LCD with HDMI arrives (can't wait :) )

    The sound quailty is just amazing! CD playback is awesome, especially HDCDs. Multi-channel SACD playback is also stunning.

    :clap: :thumbsup:

    All I need now is a Denon AVR-3805 to go with it :smashin:
     
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    To be honest, in this day and age, and the fact that sub 30 squid DVD players can manage seamless transitions between layers, the fact that the layer change on the 868 is worse than my previous 737, is nothing short of a disgrace.

    Watched the new edit of 'Stripes' the other night, and the transitions between the 'seamless' branching, is very, very jarring :(

    Shame as the rest of the player is flawless.
     
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    As i said before....i have not seen the newer denons in action, but i would say you have made a good choice.
    I'm on my second 2900 and i love it....not as good as my Arcam 89 for CD's, but for DVD films i prefer the 2900 over the Arcam......on my TV there is no difference in Pic quality but the denon is seamless, where the Arcam has the layer delay.
     
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    Guyb,

    If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy your denon from and how much did you pay?

    Oh, buy the way, don't forget to change your signature.
     
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    dont forget pioneers CUE problems (see other threds)
    3910 all the way
     
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    Don't forget the Denon's macroblocking problem which the Pio doesn't have.

    Swings and roundabouts ;)
     
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    Pioneer 868 suffers cue only on a very few discs but its layer change is awfull, one of the worst and a bit poor realy. But then it will play everything you feed it and you dont have to worry about quirky firmware or audio dropouts + it gives a slightly sharper pic than the 3910 via HDMI.

    3910 suffer firmware quirks, I-link dropouts, no interlaced signal via HDMI (so you cant bypass the bugged faroudja chipset unless you use component or go SDI) and slowish navigation speeds. Component output is first rate however and i think yeilds a better pic than using the HDMI output. And finaly you very rarley see a layer change and if you do its just a minor, not as good as the 2900 which has the best layer change and navigation speed of any dvd player i have seen. Also macroblocking with the 3910 is near none visible and not a concern if you use HDMI at 720p output

    So both as good as each other, just a matter of what would least bug you the most
     

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