Pioneer-Denon-Marantz ?

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  1. mark.king

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    :rolleyes: Been looking and asking the odd question for a while now. Do I go for the pioneer 868 which is dropping in price. I would use this via component through my 6 series panny plasma and maybe use the hdmi at a later date with a projector.

    The Denon 3910. Also coming down in price but £100 more than pioneer.

    Both have problems as seen on this forum. I have an old pinoneer 444 and I am not happy with the sound which is hard and not detailed or the pq which is defined but not as vibrant as my free view box and only works over scart.

    So do I go mad and get the maranz 9500 which is £1250 multiregion from vickers hi fi or is this just overkill and either of the other two would be good enough. Both being a lot less the pinoneer nearly half the price. Also which one has really good dvd sound? CD playback is not important as I have a copland cd player which is superb.

    Cheers
     
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    I'm biased, I have an 868 .. no macroblocking problems with Pioneers. ;)
     
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    Well I'm biased too. Get the Marantz DV9500!!!!! :thumbsup:

    No macroblocking on that either.

    Seriously though if you are not too concerned about CD playback (its my main source) then I'd stick to the Pioneer (certainly over the Denon as it has issues.....well mine did).

    The Pioneer is no slouch in the audio department either but not in the same league as the Marantz.
     
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    Mark

    Definitely biased !! Get the Pioneer, get it Multi Region 'remoted' and save yourself some money, as to recommended DVD playback...faultless, really impressed with mine :smashin:
    Hope this helps....

    Shane
     
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    Have you ever run tests on a pioneer 868? I used it, very nice but on hdmi or dvi surpased by for example s2500 and pana s97. It (868) fails on some deinterlacing tests, and there is something else than macroblocking that we just could not explain, but made the test pictures a bit worse than others.. sorry.. Also some more pixel cropping than others.

    I must say that apart from these minor things component output was very good.

    This can be seen as nitpicking but surely not as being subjective. The faults are there.
     
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    Cheers for the replies. I think I will get down to the local superfi and have a look at the 868 and 3910 through component
     
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    By the way what is the sound like on dvd's with the pioneer?
     
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    Fine as far as I'm concerned, not sure what aspect you're thinking of. Audiophiles tend to shy away from the 868 as far as I can see, preferring the Arcams, but since I'm not an audiophile I don't know the difference. ;)
     
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    Second that, put thro' my Yamaha....sounds :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't mean to play cd's I mean with dvd's. As mentioned earlier I have a hi end cd player. I am fussy about sound and just sounding clean is not enough. I'm not trying to get the same from it as my cd player though
     
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    Are you going to be using the digital outs or the internal decoders of the DV868i?

    If its the digital outs I wouldn't worry so much. There's only slight variations once you get to that price level and the jitter readings according to HCC and What Video are pretty low.
     
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    I was interested in this question too and wondered if having just a Marantz 7600 is comparable to having both a Pioneer 868 and a Rotel RCD-02?
     
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    carefull with the pioneer 868 and its CUE problem (see other threds) i had a 668 which also has this problem and exchanged it for the awsome denon3910.
    you have been warned.
     
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    I use the digital out of my pioneer 444 and it is very flat sounding (not frequency wise) I do assume that sound quality with better models is actually better over digital outs? I may use the analogue out at times as some dvd's sound better in stereo take for instance led zep one. This sounds better fed direct into my krell amp which is a better pre-amp than my yamaha dsp800. So the analogue sterio out does matter to me. Cheers
     
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    I've gone off Pioneer also because of the CUE. I recommend you avoid them.
     

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