Pioneer BDP-450 Universal 3D Blu-ray Player Review

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    1. The News Bot

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      Reviewed by Stephen Withers, 23rd February 2013. Overall the Pioneer BDP-450 proved to be a consummate performer when it came to digital video and audio, regardless of the disc type or format. If you're looking for a universal player and only need to use HDMI then there really is nothing else that comes close at the price - Best Buy!
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      yes that was a good review, was @ the pioneer stand. today at the Bristol show and they told me that you should review it very soon, I am now 99% sure that I'll be purchasing one very soon, thank you
      Gerry
       
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      Nice review! Did you encounter any playback issues which have been widely reported on the forums?
       
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      Steve Withers certainly knows his stuff and passes his comments to listeners in a very objective way-I am a little on the ignorant side re technical issues and my taste is therefore limited somewhat, I require excellent picture and sound but in spite of this I purchased the Oppo 105 with a view to going on a learning curve to understand the remaining jargon etc.I will soon be topping the eighties mark and this will keep the little grey cells working-if I was a little younger and money was that little bit scarce I would definitely go for the Pioneer, as Steve Withers says it is The Best Buy-
      However to own a player in the Reference Class is quite something but whichever you purchase enjoy your Home Cinema.

      Best wishes

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      I've looked through these forums and can't find anything. Anywhere in particular?
       
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      I didn't encounter any playback issues with the BDs, DVDs, DVD-As, SACDs and CDs that I tried out, nor was I aware of any.
       
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      just bought one, trying out Dark Side of the moon sacd, and some dvda, so far so good
      Gerry
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      theres custom firmwares for this player to make it multi region for bluray and dvd, also turns into a decent stream media player
       
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      Hi, really enjoyed the review.

      Just got to ask the miliondollar question:

      THE PIONEER BDP 450 OR THE SONY S790 ????

      I dont give anything about wifi/smart/streaming. Just want the best out of those 2.
      Ill be using it for BD discs, 3D BDs and a lot of DVDs. Ill be using split hdmi output alswell.

      After testing both, money not being the issue, which of the 2 would you buy???

      Thanx for the advice and reviews.
       
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      the pioneer, for its multi region cabability and cinavia disabling (after firmware patching)
       
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      The lip sync issues specially ocure when output is split (hdmi 1 image to screen - hdmi 2 audio to receiver).

      When one would google "pioneer bdp 450 lipsync" a LOT hits turn up... Noisy startup doesnt bother me. S790 can be noisy aswel. If one doesnt like noise then one should buy lx series or oppo.
       
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      So, to sum up we've got 3 cheap very good BDPs on the market right now.
      Panasonic 500
      Pioneer 450
      Sony790

      PQ is excellent on every each of them and AQ as well. There's no difference at all.
      IMO, the only problem with sony is build quality which I don't like. To me Pioneer wins, thanks build quality, SACD etc but on the other hand Panasonic plays FLAC.

      Excellent review Steve, many many thanks.
       
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      @tomhd the review says the Pioneer plays flac also.
       
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      Yep - it certainly does.

      I'm also not a fan of my Sonys build quality either.
       
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      Yes, Sorry but I did not notice that. It plays FLAC as well, that's right.
       
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      There's nothing in it in terms of performance and based on your criteria both would be excellent. From a purely personal perspective and based on overall capabilities and looks, I'd go for the BDP-450.
       
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      Thanx!

      Just thepush i needed to choose the pioneer.
       
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      Steve, I have a Pioneer amp, should I use the Professional setting as well as on the BDP-450? and why?
      Thank you in advance
      Gerry
       
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      Is this a better blu ray player than the Pioneer BDP-LX55?
       
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      Yes, the Pro setting is best because it doesn't do anything unwanted to the signal and you want the player and amp to pass an unadulterated signal to your display. Any calibration should be done on the display and not at other parts of the video chain.
       
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      thank you very muvh for your reply
       
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      Is the BDP-450 the Euro version of the US BDP-62FD ?
       
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      Does 'universal' mean region free?
       
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      No it means it plays Blu-rays (2D & 3D), DVDs, DVD-Audio discs, SACDs and CDs, the player itself is region 2 for DVD and Region B for Blu-ray.
       
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      Hi all I need some help please I am considering buying the pioneer bdp 450 or the bdplx55 bluray player can anyone who owns either of these players give me some advice which one to get cheers guys:lease:
       
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      I have owned a Pioneer BDP-450 for a week - in that time it has had numerous freezes/lock-ups.:thumbsdow

      I have spent a number of hours talking through the problems with Pioneer's so called customer services - who seem to be clueless - and worse than that, they seem to think I'm gullible enough to believe what they say.:facepalm:

      The last straw came today when the machine decided not to play any Blu-ray discs despite still being able to play CD, SACD and DVD discs.:mad:

      I have a Pioneer KRP-500 reference screen connected to HDMI "main" output on the BDP-450 and SC-LX86 receiver connected to the "sub" HDMI output on the BDP-450.

      I have the BDP-450 set to "separate" - video and sound to the two respected hdmi cables with preference given to the "main" hdmi connection. The 450 still changes from the input 3 on my plasma (video only) to input 1 (sound only) despite the loop-thru set to allow signal from my sky hd box only, with hdmi control switched off the bdp-450 still changes inputs.:rolleyes:

      My frustration is this:

      The BDP-450 has a very poor quality drive - even mine is starting to get noisy.<o:p></o

      The tray drawer is incredibly shallow which means it will not play hybrid discs (DVD one side/ cd on the other) because they are too thick and will scratch - I can confirm this!

      However, it has better picture quality, faster loading times (and the mpeg4 playback) over the BDP-LX55.:smashin:

      So do I chance another one (in the hope I get a good one) or try a BDP-LX55 (quieter drive and 32bit audio processing)?

      I would think about an Oppo - if it wasn't for the brilliant Pioneer av2012 control app I have working on my Galaxy note2!

      IMO all the Japanese manufacturers are dumbing down their machines/cutting corners to save money &#8211; they all lack connectivity and the ability to work properly, straight out the box!

      On a slightly different note: Any idea where I can find the patch to defeat Cinavia?;)










       
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      I am on my second oppo Blu ray player, the 105EU-prior to this I had a 93EU-I have never had the problems that you have had but more importantly because of a lack of technical knowledge I had to go back to oppo on one particular problem and they resolved in in no time at all.They were courteous and fully understood that I needed help, they knew that I wasn't into rocket science and they solved the problem-it had nothing at all to do with the machine in question(93EU)-If I have a problem in the future I know that Oppo will sort the matter out.As a matter of fact after Steve Withers had done his review of the 450 I* thought that it was the ideal machine from a perfornce and economic point of view.Perhaps you have been unlucky and got a problematic one.Steve Withers is a pretty knowledgable man on these matters-I trusted him with the oppo but your problem seems to be a lack of liason with the powers at Pioneer-why not try an Oppo 103?
       
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      I bought Pioneer because I wanted to guarantee full system integration - yet I have ended up with exactly the HDMI control issues I was trying to avoid!:facepalm:

      The machine seems more stable when only one HDMI connection is used.

      The picture and sound quality is very good when it is working - motion is handled very well - super smooth.:smashin:

      One of the reasons i have said the drive is a very poor example is that it fails to play scratched discs that play on my 5 year old BDP-51FD!:rolleyes:
       

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