Pioneer A08 PC DVD Burner

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  1. Rasczak

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    The new Pioneer PC DVD burner will be available from late July (but not until September in Europe). Available in Black or Silver with recording speeds of:

    16 x DVD-R on 8x media
    16 x DVD+R on 8x media
    2.4 x DVD+R DL upgradeable to 4x when media becomes available
    4 x DVD-RW
    4 x DVD+RW
    32 x CD-R
    24 x CD-RW

    It also supports the playback of 3 x DVD-RAM. For the full specs look here:
    http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/company_news_pressrelease.jsp?category=dvd_writer
    ...and here:
    http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=5823
     
  2. PhilipL

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    Hi

    Nothing really new in this model, the 16 speed and 4 speed dual-layer recording is upto Pioneer's discretion until the actual media arrives sometime in Jan 2005, which will also arrive with newer hardware that properly supports it! This 'discretion' is the same scenerio we had back in the days of 2 speed burning on the A03/A04. This will just mean loads of complaints about Pioneer fixing their firmware to delibrately stop high speed burning on "Insert cheap brand name here" media, and hacked firmware doing the rounds just adding to the coaster mountain!

    Give it a month or two and pick up a bargain A07 with media you can buy now for using with it. Going the latest and greatest model to be "bleeding" edge in this DVD recorder game is nothing more than supporting the marketing departments of these companies!

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    Nothing new? Burning dual layer I call new. May I assume you're a "little" disappointed to see that Pioneer didn't get DVD-R DL ready? That Pioneer, the main company behind the DVD-R format, supports DVD+R DL and even increases the speed on this format but was unable to get DVD-R DL working at all, not even for a "paper launch" that you claimed they've done with 4x +R DL :D Which it's not though as it burns @ 4x on selected 2.4x DL media.
    Unfortunately it uses ZCLV for burning 16x single layer media. Probably because the DVD-R format was difficult to get working at fast CAV speeds. That will most likely make it slower at 16x than what for example the Plextor PX-712 is at 12x, using PCAV. So I think I'll buy something else after all although I like the look of the XL version, especially the black one.
     
  4. PhilipL

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    Four speed writing to +R isn't a surprise, this Pioneer model was discussed months ago. Pioneer have pushed it up to 4 speed as that is what they have developed for DVD-R DL to achieve when it is released, supposedly Q4, and so while the DVD Forum drags it heals over verification and testing of the DVD-R DL media and hardware, Pioneer would be stupid not to add it to +R and give its hardware a marketing advantage, although that want last for long as others will follow. It is all marketing as few will find DL media that will actually be supported at 4 speed, and even then the compatibility is unknown and will only be for the worse at 4 speed writing.

    My main point is the media isn't ready, we are some 6 months away from reliable dual-layer burning at almost reasonable media costs, and when 4 speed DL media arrives in Jan 2005, it will be another 6 months before that is readily available and so everyone will still just be using 2.4 speed, by this time they will be pushing hardware with 8 speed DL This sort of push on the speed numbers is nothing new in the DVD optical market though.

    We already know the next Pioneer model will be the A09, supporting dual layer to DVD-R and +R at 4 speed, and what is to bet that the A09 is nothing more than an A08 with new firmware? Owners of A08's will likely be offered free firmware updates to make their A08's into A09's, or if Pioneer have cracked the compatibility issues that are facing +R DL, they might even be confident enough to offer the firmware at a charge. Time will tell and will hold no surprises.

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    Philip
     
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    True!
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    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/10135
     

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