Pioneer 8G Owners Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.

Bumtious

Banned
Ok by request here we go. more later

Lets keep in in one thread so we can all help each other and just look in one place of reference.

I have now attached 6 sets of setting text files for each type of source as promised, this is a calaboration between myself and Andrew Fee.

The HDMI settings are perfect D65, the others track the HDMI setting as close posible we found differences between sources using scart. There are 2 scart settings, try them both but the Sky one works for Sky SD.

Check back weekly as they may change, the first line is the date they were issued.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:AMENDED 22nd February 2008 SONY PS3 SETTINGS text file added :thumbsup::thumbsup:

The HDMI Video setting of auto will now work as Sony have fixed a bug with the ps3.

Review of the Pioneer 4280
Review of the Pioneer 508XD

************DO NOT PLAY WITH THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING**************

The get into the service menu do the following..

Enter the Service Menu
Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press the i button (directly below 9) on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed, will change 3 times on its own quickly.


*********TO MAKE 4:3 SIDE BARS BLACK ONCE IN THE SERVIVE MENU**************

Press MUTE 3 times until the side bar screen is displayed at the bottom.

Press ENTER

Set:
Standard is set to 115 use left button to set to 0

*************************************

Next to show hours meter

once into the menu press mute to show panel factory

press enter

Then press down and you will see the hours.

Press HOME MENU to exit

*************************************************************************

g8a.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 8 G Settings Shop Demo.txt
    1.8 KB · Views: 6,590
  • 8 G D65 HDMI Settings.txt
    1.9 KB · Views: 19,134
  • 8 G Settings Freeview.txt
    781 bytes · Views: 7,964
  • 8 G Settings SKY SD Scart.txt
    813 bytes · Views: 7,236
  • 8 G Settings Scart 2.txt
    784 bytes · Views: 4,979
  • 8 G Settings X Box VGA.txt
    159 bytes · Views: 3,178
  • Old D65 Settings.txt
    577 bytes · Views: 4,093
  • 8 G LX Starter Settings.txt
    1.8 KB · Views: 7,700
  • 8G PS3 Settings.txt
    673 bytes · Views: 6,334

ozzzy189

Distinguished Member
A good idea. Do i have to have one to post ? :D
 

BYF

Well-known Member
wow great blacks there!

even looks nice and vibrant next to that window.

its probably too early to ask, but how does this TV handle fast motion, especially the quick panning shot? is it as good as CRT for retaining detail during these scenes?
 

Bumtious

Banned
wow great blacks there!

even looks nice and vibrant next to that window.

its probably too early to ask, but how does this TV handle fast motion, especially the quick panning shot? is it as good as CRT for retaining detail during these scenes?

Yes and no, the smooth images are via 1080P/24, this is awesome, things like footy which is a 1080i source still suffer from deinterlacing lag ie double image on fast scrolling text.
 

mwomwell

Active Member
Okay, it's going to be great on HD material, the big question however is whats it like with SD material? - Freeview ITV quality etc.
 

JeffD

Well-known Member
According to the manual, native res without overscan (so should be 1:1 pixel mapping) is supported over HDMI, although it appears only 60Hz might be supported, if someone has the time could they test this with a PC or scaler and also verify whether or not it supports native res at 50Hz as well.
 

mark800

Distinguished Member
My first impressions are:

  • Black levels and contrast levels. These hit you first. Images just pop off the screen. Even when you turn the contrast right down, it's still better than the Panasonic at full contrast.
  • Colours. Amazing. I'm sure the TV will stand out from the crowd in the show room.
  • Ease of use. Not very good. There are too many settings, which need to be changed. For example, the HDMI inputs are not on as default, until you switch them on.
  • Aesthetics. Compared to my Panasonic, it's a beautiful piece of kit.
  • Blu-ray. This is THE TV for Blu-ray. With no motion judder, the picture quality is awesome. Very film-like and detail is amazing.
  • Blurring/panning. While some have claimed greater clarity with camera pans, I cannot see it. It seems just the same as my Panasonic (which is better than LCD). On some settings, you see a bit of judder on fast pans. I will have to experiment further.
  • Reflections. I sit in a light lounge and my Panasonic was a nightmare in the day. The new TV is a revelation.
  • Halos. No halos on text. As clean as a whistle.
  • Posterisation. With the Panasonic, you can often see distinct bands of colour. However, the Pioneer appears very clean, and I haven't seen anything.

So, overall, the only concern is with the de-interlacing/motion handling of the TV. Other that that, it seems great.

Edit: please note that the judder has been solved - see later posts. It's now silky smooth.

Here are the latest reviews:



http://blog.homecinemachoice.com/page/homecinemachoice?entry=pioneer_pdp_508xd_web_exclusive
 

andrewfee

Well-known Member
Disappointing about the motion handling - I thought these resolved nearly the full panel resolution now with quick motion (whereas the Panasonics apparently lose at least 100 lines of resolution)

Have you tested for / noticed any of the plasma "rainbow" artefacts yet? Basically it's green trails behind bright moving objects, or blue/yellow flashes with big contrast changes. (it's much easier to spot if you turn colour to 0 on a TV - that way if you see any colour on the screen you know it still suffers from this problem)
 

gizlaroc

Distinguished Member
So, overall, the only concern is with the de-interlacing/motion handling of the TV. Other that that, it seems great.

The motion used to really annoy me on previous generations of Pioneer too, I was hoping this was sorted.
The one thing that made me go with a Panasonic PW6 a few years ago was the way it looked like a big CRT compared with the Pioneer sat next to it, that hit me before the black levels.
How does it compare to your PX60? Motion I mean.
 

ozzzy189

Distinguished Member
Fast movement. Perhaps that's the other models forte ? The 'elites' or whatever they're calling them here, i read something about some kind of extra processing or summat. Then again, i could be way off. :)
 

D-Nice

Member
[*]Blurring/panning. While some have claimed greater clarity with camera pans, I cannot see it. It seems just the same as my Panasonic (which is better than LCD). On some settings, you see a bit of judder on fast pans. I will have to experiment further.
What Pure Cinema setting are you using?
 

CottonEye

Active Member
Great pics! Mark thanks - :thumbsup:

Not to take you guys off topic but I want to place an order for the 5080XD, is the panel the same i.e. video pic processing with comparison to the 508XD? :confused:
 

Anjou

Active Member
I was watching Sky HD with 1080i, and Pure Cinema was switched off.

Mark,

I've just ordered a PDP-428XD and am very excited. You mentioned settings need to be changed. Care to post some settings for owners to try? In particular any suggestions re: contrast for run in. Bit daft about the HDMI!

I don't know what camera you have but those pics really pop. Can you do some on the internal freeview?

Anj
(the demanding one)
 

dpgs

Active Member
I thought the Elites were the 508XDs.

As far as I know, you are right. The 508XD is the Elite. With the extra calibration configuration etc etc.

The 5080XD is the lesser model with added stand and speaker. And no calibration option.
 

CottonEye

Active Member
As far as I know, you are right. The 508XD is the Elite. With the extra calibration configuration etc etc.

The 5080XD is the lesser model with added stand and speaker. And no calibration option.
I assume one can still choose preset/modes pic options like smooth pure cinema etc just not have access to the ISF bits
 

Meridius

Well-known Member
what are the diffrences in the 508 and 5080 ????? the 508 is more cash than the 5080 but the 5080 has better picture filter

508 Direct Colour Filter 2
5080 Direct Colour Filter 3

or am i missing something ???? is it not the same panel ??? what are the diffrences is one panel have better picture than the other or just the same is there any diffrence in the calibration option ?? to the other set is it worth having

is there no speaker on the 508 version ? if not how do you get sound for this tv as i dont want to keep using my amp to watch normal tv stuff

any rainbow effect on these tv sets
 

CottonEye

Active Member
I've been trying to find out the same...

As far as I can see the 508XD has the following additions:

- Plasma Drive 2HD ?
- ISF C3 (Custom Calibration Configuration) Ability
- Split Screen & Picture in Picture Modes
- Ambient Light Sensor & Optimum Picture mode

Not sure important “plasma drive 2HD” is to the picture output

The 5080 has Direct Colour Filter 3 where as the 508 has Direct Colour Filter 2 :confused:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

The latest video from AVForums

Podcast: Panasonic JZ2000 Final Thoughts - TV Calibration: Should you? And More...
Subscribe to our YouTube channel

Latest News

What's new on UK streaming services for December 2021
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
Best Projectors of 2021 - Editor's Choice Awards
  • By Steve Withers
  • Published
Black Friday 2021: What you need to know
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
What's new on Blu-ray Special - The Cinema of Zhang Yimou & Gong Li
  • By Mark Costello
  • Published
AVForums Podcast: 24th November 2021
  • By Phil Hinton
  • Published
Support AVForums with Patreon

Top Bottom