I saw the 868 through a pioneer 434hde panel last weekend, using the hdmi link upscaled to 1280x720p through its inbuilt resolution expander, and it was awesome. Very 'hi-def'. Now I dont want to see any more films until I get it, as there doesnt seem any point, as I'm only watching the film at 60%. So, was going to get one early next month, but then someone in another thread posts a link about the Denon DVD3910, which isnt out yet, and this also has a scaler in it. I called my local retailer, and they will be getting it in, but it may not be until October! I cant wait that long to back-to-back the two players to make a choice! I dont care to much about iLink, and whether it will play DVD-ROM, DVD-R+ or DVD-Audio etc. I'm just interested in the DVD picture. Is the Denon going to be that much better than the 868 - comparing tech specs, unless someone has actually seen both machines backtoback - going into the 434 using HDMI upscaling.