Pioneer 757i - very nice but explain this...

Matt F

Active Member
I normally use s-video for DVD as my Pace Freeview box already uses the TV's RGB SCART (and the Pace doesn't do s-video out through it's SCART).

So, I connected the Pioneer up to EXT2 on the TV - great - really good picture and the TV automatically switches to the Y/C (s-video) option when the Pioneer is powered up. Excellent.

Then I tried a R1 DVD in the player - just to test it is multi region - it plays it alright BUT it's in black and white! Checked all the settings and cables and made sure the TV was on Y/C - all okay. Tried a R2 DVD and it's back in colour again.

Changed the player to RGB and used the EXT1 (RGB) input on the TV and no problems - the R1 DVD plays in colour.

What I've done is looped the Pace box through the Pioneer 757i and everything works fine - in fact the 757i looks even better on RGB.

So, I've solved the problem but I'm intrigued as to why I only get a black and white s-video picture on R1 discs (but not on R2 discs) - I guess the player is outputing a RAW NTSC signal for R1 discs (my old player would output R1 as PAL) but I can't see the logic in the TV being able to play back RGB signals in colour but not s-video.

Anyone know why this is?

Thanks,

Matt.
 
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FoxyMulder

Guest
Sounds like the dvd player is actually set to RGB mode which would explain the Black and White picture.
 

CIMPSA

Standard Member
Matt F, is your TV a Sony? If it is, I think I've read somewhere that you need to change something using the Service Menu to avooid B&W through s-video
 

Matt F

Active Member
It's a Philips TV and, no Foxy, the player wasn't set to RGB - it was definitely set to s-video (and the TV was on the Y/C option).

As I said, an R2 DVD played through it was fine in s-video (full colour, nice picture) - eject the R2 disc and replace it with a R1 disc, press 'play' and, hey presto, black and white (even the DVD player's menu system is in black and white when an R1 disc is in the player)!

Matt.
 

gmt steve

Novice Member
RGB and Component are neither PAL nor NTSC, these terms only apply to s-vid and composite. There is a way of making the 757 output NTSC as PAL60. Check the manual.
 

Matt F

Active Member
Originally posted by gmt steve
RGB and Component are neither PAL nor NTSC, these terms only apply to s-vid and composite. There is a way of making the 757 output NTSC as PAL60. Check the manual.
Ah - I had a feeling it must be something like this - and my old player has a PAL/NTSC switch on the back so it could output R1 as PAL.

I'll check the chunky manual for outputing NTSC as PAL60 (I have read some of it - honest).

Thanks for your help Steve.

Matt.
 

chris

Active Member
Have you got a setting on the TV's menu to change the input for EXT 2......some TV's you have to tell it what signal is being put in.
 

Matt F

Active Member
Originally posted by chris
Have you got a setting on the TV's menu to change the input for EXT 2......some TV's you have to tell it what signal is being put in.
Have never seen one - basically, one button toggles through the two extension sockets but there are three steps - EXT1 (RGB/composite), EXT2 (composite) and then EXT2 'Y/C' (s-video).

Matt.
 

Nic Rhodes

Well-known Member
It is one of the joys of internal processing of sets. Some even can't take RGB on NTSC because of the internal 'processing'. GMT Steve has given you answer already, nothing to do with the Pioneer but the Philips. Many other sets have simialr 'quirks' like Panasonics. I has to ditch a philps when I got my Tag becasue of this
 

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