Pioneer 656 or 565??

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  1. tuttonp

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    Trying to decide between buying a second hand 656 or a new 565 as they both come in at about the same price. I want something that will support most formats (dvd-r/rw, mp3,etc). They appear similar but offer subtly different features. I'm just stumped as which is the better player.

    Advise greatly recieved.
     
  2. Dimmy

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    I bought the 565, if that helps.
     
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    i had the 656 which was superb.Do you have a tv/plasma/pj?
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    TV - Sony KV28FX20. Not planning on 'upgrading' in the near future.
     
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    well you won't need the progressive function of the 565, for a better interlaced signal go for the 656. The only thing the 565 has over the 656 is progressive scan. I haven't actually seen the 565 but i have seem other more expensive interlaced players and the 656 is mostly of a better standard.
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    The only advantage I could see of the 565 is a Jpeg viewer and the fact it's only about £180new wheras the cheapest I can find a 656 is about £300.
     
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    I just sold my second hand one for £140, they often pop up on classified. Put up a wtd thread. Also, correct me if i am wrong dimmy, but doesn't the 565 only output a progressive signal through its component outputs or is that bull?
    cheers
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    Yes Fred, that's right.

    Component Video is curretly the only video interconnect standard that supports Progressive Scan, the 565 is no exception.

    With your display tuttonp, There's really no need for you to spend extra on a 656 over the 565, you're very unlikely to see any difference in picture quality.

    At the prices it's selling for, I'd definitely recommend the 565 in this instance.
     
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    If you can only find it for £300 then you might as well save the money and go for the 565. Although the 656 will be better, the difference will not really be noticeable, especially on a 28" screen.
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    the 656 uses dual lasers (different wavelengths for DVD and CD) so in theory may be more competent with music - I have no idea if that holds tru though.

    I gather the 656 shares components with the 757, so may offer better all round quality, though it lacks the prog scan offered by the 565.

    I have a 656, and I am very happy with it, but have not made any direct comparisons. I paid £279 for a multiregion one, so about £80 more than a 565.
     
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    The DACS for the centre/sub/surround channels in the 656 are of higher calibre than those found in the 565, which translates into higher S/N ratios. Not a massive audible difference, but noteworthy all the same.

    I do believe that the 565 also uses a combined video DAC for all sources, and a combined audio processor for all encoding methods (DTS, Dolby, MPEG etc etc). How this differs in the 656, I don't recall off the top of my head.

    I do believe the 565 shares the 'Dual Laser' funtionality of the 656, as this is requisite for any player that reads both DSD data and PCM data from discs.
     
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    Dual lasers, you may be right Dimmy but the Pioneer spec sheets show this differs between them.

    You can compare specs here:

    http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_overview.jsp?category_id=222&taxonomy_id=62-84

    They call it "Twin-Wave Laser Pick-up":

    http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/help.jsp?editorial_id=630

    I remember a couple of years ago when I bought my first player, a Pio 535, the dual laser was a particular selling point as it was one of the few players at the time in that price range that was held to do any justice to CD's. (I must say the biggest improvement when i got the 656 was "musicality").

    I may just be a sucker for sales patter and reviews!
     
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    A friend of mine has the 656 and I have the 565. We compared the image quality on a 32" screen and saw no differences. No difference was noticed by us in the audio department either. So our conclusion was that the 565 is a better buy, unless maybe you are going to be using a projector.. All I know is that I love my 565, it's my fourth dvd player and the very best I've had.
     
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    They call it "Twin-Wave Laser Pick-up":

    Similar in practise to sony's 'Dual Laser Pick-Up' then. Which does little more than read a disc with two lasers in an attempt to account for errors and problems on the disc.
     
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    Just for info

    Richer sounds are selling graded 656's off for £150. I just picked one up and its like new.
     
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    which richer sounds?

    Please tell me, i was about put a wanted add in the classifieds for a 656
     
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    stockport
     

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