Have just come back from the What HiFi Show in Bristol where there were numerous plasmas. There was a demo of a Pio 868 and 504HDE (showing Pirates of the Caribbean) and a comparison between PAL prog component and HDMI. The latter was definately better - there was more 'depth' and solidity to the images. However, this difference pailed into insignificance when Pioneer demoed a 433HDE with HDTV from a DVHS(?) source - it was a Grand Prix. This image just seemed much more alive than the HDMI test.