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Pio 575 picture settings?

TankTopLover

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Just got this great player and wondered if someone can let me know what pic settings they have,its all on factory settings atm and looks a bit iffy.

:smashin:
 

flangemonkey

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I have kept mine one more or less factory (using Gufiak's latest f/w), with only Luma Delay set to 1T and Black Level turned on.

The settings I chose to modify were the TV ones...
 

Barzo

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If by 'iffy' you mean that you see jagged lines on some edges with some DVDs, then this is a weakness of the player. There are a number of threads on this. This is why I bought an S97, which does not display this problem. Originally, I was using prog scan through a JVC DIST CRT, and saw this. I also see the 'jaggies' when connected to my Samsung LCD through component and prog scan (or, indeed, interlace). A weakness, then, but not a major one in a player that does so much for so little. Also, a weakness that not everyone sees. Click http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179119&highlight=575 for a LONG discussion of this issue.
 

TankTopLover

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I see no jaggies i just thought if other users had any recommendations for picture settings they could share them.

I sit about 6 feet away from a 32" screen and have not seen(or noticed) any flicker/jaggies yet through PAL prog.

The picture is a huge improvement over my previous Phillips DVP5100 player.
 

PJTX100

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Try Sharpness set to Fine and BNR On...PJ
 

rickardl

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Only 'blacker-than-black' turned on; keep rest unchanged to keep the picture
as unmodifided, "pure", nonbiased as possible before feeding it to your display.
 

flangemonkey

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I agree with rickardl. I let my display do all the work in calibrating the image. I'd like to see as direct a representation that is on the original disc as I can, warts and all. The best way to do this is to let the player feed the screen a neutral image. If there is noise in the original source video, I'd rather keep it there than have the player try to remove it (which is what BNR will do), since it will not be perfect, and end up removing fine detail in other parts of the picture also...
 

TankTopLover

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rickardl said:
Only 'blacker-than-black' turned on; keep rest unchanged to keep the picture
as unmodifided, "pure", nonbiased as possible before feeding it to your display.
I cant seem to find this option blacker than black? Will i have to update the firmware to get this option?
 

flangemonkey

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This option is ONLY available in one of the third-party firmwares. Pioneer's own ROM doesn't for some reason support 0 IRE, and are set at 7.5 IRE by default. This will mean that certain tests like the drop-shadow on THX Optimode etc. won't show correctly.

In MTZ, Gufiak and Foncreator's f/w, there is an additional option called either "Blacker-than-Black" or "Black Level" in the menus. Turning these on will cause the player to pass 0 IRE...
 

TankTopLover

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flangemonkey said:
This option is ONLY available in one of the third-party firmwares. Pioneer's own ROM doesn't for some reason support 0 IRE, and are set at 7.5 IRE by default. This will mean that certain tests like the drop-shadow on THX Optimode etc. won't show correctly.

In MTZ, Gufiak and Foncreator's f/w, there is an additional option called either "Blacker-than-Black" or "Black Level" in the menus. Turning these on will cause the player to pass 0 IRE...
I see,so which of these firmwares is the best? And do i just burn it do cd and pop it in the player? Thanks.
 

Barzo

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Where does on get either of these firmwares?
 
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Benfica

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flangemonkey said:
This option is ONLY available in one of the third-party firmwares. Pioneer's own ROM doesn't for some reason support 0 IRE, and are set at 7.5 IRE by default. This will mean that certain tests like the drop-shadow on THX Optimode etc. won't show correctly.

In MTZ, Gufiak and Foncreator's f/w, there is an additional option called either "Blacker-than-Black" or "Black Level" in the menus. Turning these on will cause the player to pass 0 IRE...
Well, not precisely.

0 IRE is the black level for PAL system; 7.5 IRE is the black level for NTSC (US) system.

Ability to pass BTB is for both: in a DVD a black has a value of 16. Values under 16 (which shouldn't be there, but could be there) are either sent has a 16 (black - so no ablility to pass BTB) or as a value lower then 16 (ability to pass BTB).

HTH
 

PJTX100

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Ify said:
What does BNR stand for? What does it do, if it is turned on?
Block Noise Reduction, takes away grain but no loss of detail. I usually wouldn't touch such things with a barge pole, but this works amazingly well certainly on my projector and I've seen others comment it works on plasmas etc too with equal effect....PJ
 

rickardl

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PJTX100 said:
Block Noise Reduction, takes away grain but no loss of detail. I usually wouldn't touch such things with a barge pole, but this works amazingly well certainly on my projector and I've seen others comment it works on plasmas etc too with equal effect....PJ
Just the fact that it takes away grain is why I don't use it.
Grain is actually a very contributing part of why it looks like film and
not digital artificially enhanced video.
When viewed on a big screen, over 90", I felt I lost all depth perception and 3D effect with BNR turned on.
But I'd suggest that people try both BNR 'On' and 'Off' for some time before
deciding what to use.
 

sparticus

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Hi
I have been here for two days looking at a several dvd players ( I know I should get a life!) One thing that was clear on my setup was BNR removes a lot of detail from faces at least. Sometimes they looked airbrushed. At one stage I found myself wondering what was wrong with the pio untill I realized I had left it on by mistake and had forgotten. I guess its something you have to try for yourself, plus it depends on how close you are to the picture.
regards
 

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