PicturePerfect World Cup 2018: Setting the correct TV picture size

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    1. Mark Hodgkinson

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      I am always amazed at how few people seem to alter their "out of the box" tv settings. These days many sets take the user through a few setup screens, but it doesn't usually cover aspect ratio or the different viewing modes.

      TV's have so many settings, it's little wonder most consumers don't get the best out of their sets. You shouldn't need to go online to find out all this stuff, it needs to be easier for all viewers to understand what these settings are doing and how to get the best out of them.
       
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      I personally still use overscan when watching HD broadcasts as a lot of them still aren’t actually full screen and have annoying artifacts on the edges and it doesn’t seem to effect compressed broadcast quality picture anyway.
       
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      i agree.. and normally tvs dont come with instructions either nowadays. I used to enjoy flicking through an instruction booklet ...
       
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      Very useful article. It does seem that the first link:
      Free to use PicturePerfect page
      Is broken - at least, when I try to use it I get an AV Forums "requested page could not be found" message
       
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      My freeview HD signal is so utterly terrible it's beyond saving!
       
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      I always thought that the best setting to use was to turn the TV off before England play and the hurt starts.
       
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      Not working here either.
       
    9. Phil Hinton

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      Link should work now
       
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      Brought the picture perfect disc from fleabay last week.
      Followed the on-screen instructions for my 4k 65" Hisense
      Took 25 mins to complete

      The difference was day and night, everything is so much sharper, brighter and dark colors look dark esp in HDR now and I thought my screen settings (which I took from here were perfect) I was so wrong.
      I recommend for it everyone.
      I sit about 7 feet away from the box and now love what I see.......
      PEACE!
       
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      Hampy - thanks for the tip re the picture perfect disc.
      Any chance you could tell me which one in the photo you used?
       

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      It was £2.99 when I brought it last week, I got the bluray, dvd and redeem code also all included :D
       
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      Tha's unfortunate for those in Brighton, but here in Edinburgh, my Freeview HD signal (from an external roof-mounted aerial) is absolutely fine. Even the Freeview Standard Definition channels are quite watchable, even on 75" televisions.
       
    15. Derek S-H

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      Whereabouts in Brighton are you, Chris?

      I'm in Kemp Town and the Freeview HD (and SD, surprisingly) picture quality is fine on my 65" OLED. Mind you, my loft-based aerial is pointing directly towards the transmitter on top of Whitehawk Hill and I do live on the top floor.
       
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      Hello mate! I'm at the top of Hollingdean looking at the racehill out my window. I'm not sure why the pic is so poor. I mean it's HD, but a bit muddy. Could be that it's a communal aerial. Perhaps I'm just used to netflix and amazon quality. Although iplayer offers better quality than watching the same content live. Could also be the tuner on my DX902. I so rarely watch normal TV these days so I'm not overly fussed, but a decent pic for the world cup would be nice.
       
    17. Derek S-H

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      Ahh, it might be the communal aerial that's the cause.

      I had a similar scenario in my previous flat - top floor again but a shared aerial pointing away from the Whitehawk Hill transmitter towards France! Of course, the picture was terrible, so I ended up buying one of those electronic booster thingies and plugging the aerial cable into that (I think, it's so long ago now. I definitely had some sort of internal set up).

      But the picture was never great. Mind you, it wasn't a great TV either (a Hitachi 28" CRT) and the signal was all analogue/SD. Funnily enough, the signal was better using first a VHS recorder, then a SD DVD recorder, so I'm convinced that the tuners in TV's are fairly weedy and need all the help they can get.
       
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      I agree with you and with Derek S-H that the main culprit is probably the communal aerial. I used to have a communal aerial (I'm on the first of four floors, and there are two flats on each floor), and it was a bit unreliable, so about a decade ago I had installed an aerial on the outside roof, for me and for me alone, cost about £200 if I remember correctly. I will concede that SkyQ, which my friend Laura has on a Panasonic 65ST50 plasma, is a bit better than even Freeview HD, but I can't afford Sky or Amazon or Netflix.
      I can't comment on the tuner of your Panasonic DX902, though I would imagine that it is unlikely to be worse that the tuner of my Panasonic 65VT65, which is fine with the Freeview HD channels. It must be said though that it's not quite as good as my other televisions with the SD channels.

      Back on the topic of this thread, as part of the calibration process Mr Steve Withers set all my televisions to Screen Fit or Dot-by-Dot etc, so I'm seeing the full picture - and only the full picture! :)
       
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      Thanks :thumbsup:
       
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      I bought the picture perfect pack when I first get my telly. Pointless though as my set was seemingly so accurate that there was nothing I could change. That's what put me off having a professional calibration because I can't see the gains being significant enough to warrant the cost.
       
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      Luckily, my OLED, though secondhand, had already been professionally calibrated by Gordon from AV Convergent. Though I know that a calibration takes into account the room it's situated in and I have no idea how bright or dark the previous owner's room was, so I ended up using this site's settings via one of their review videos.

      Don't know if it makes things better or worse, but I like it! And the Panasonic has so many settings and options that it's like opening a can of worms, so it feels best just to leave it. I don't forensically analyse a picture anyway, I just watch things.

      One good thing is a setting to simply turn overscan off, so I have but otherwise left the aspect ratio on Auto.
       
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      I'm pretty sure that on my 2016 LG Oled, switching overscan off stops 'screen shift' screen burn protection from working, potentially leaving the TV exposed to burn-in, particularly with static football scores. Could be worth warning people of this in the main article?
       
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      When you say pretty sure, how sure? I would've expected the shift option to be greyed out if it couldn't do it with overscan.
       
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      I'm away from home atm, but 99% sure it does not work when not using 16:9 - I remember this being the primary reason I chose not to use the non-overscan ratio (the name of which eludes me... 'just scan' I think).

      However, I believe the 2017 models introduce an additional black boarder so that screen shift works when displaying in full-pixel modes.
       
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      I have a 2016 LG B6 55" OLED, Just Scan is a toggle switch you can use in all picture aspect modes, and leaves Screen Shift unaffected.

      I've played with the aspect ratios and 16:9 with Just Scan enabled gives you the full picture, Screen Shift still does it's thing, never had any incidence of screen burn or image retention despite my son gaming on his PS4 Pro for hours on end.
       

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