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Picture 'grainy'

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by SmegFirk, Dec 26, 2002.

  1. SmegFirk

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    I'm getting some graininess/dithered image on my 37" Panny5 when using progressive pal+ntsc dvds... i'm using a philips 963sa with the pal prog hack...

    The Matrix looks fairly bad... as does Minority Report... I have all the progressive settings on (DCDi etc) on the player, and the screen is fine with Sky Digital sources...


    Is this normal? My pc on a 19"crt looked crisper, as did an interlaced player through scart to a crt tv...

    Anything i'm stupidly forgetting to do?

    Currently i don't think my plasma/dvd is performing as well as it could/should
     
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    I have the 42" Panny and have NEVER seen a bad DVD picture on mine

    have you got it connected via S/Vid or composite

    if so, connect via either component or VGA - you will get a better picture with either of those connections
     
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    i have a toshiba /panny and the pic is good
    minority report is very grainy and the matrix is not the best pic in my opinion
     
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    Hi,

    You will only get a Progressive picture if you are using the component connection on your player. I haven't got The Matrix so I can't comment on how good it should look. Try something like Toy Story or A Bug's Life - these should give superb picture quality.

    Steve
     
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    I connect through component, hence my use of prog scan.

    Thanks jmac, at least it's not me!... I haven't tried that many but Shrek was a great picture, but i don't want to be limited to cgi created films!

    Every dvd i own looked clean/crisp on a scart to 29" crt, or on my 19" pc crt monitor.... so far, prog scan+37" plasma is NOT as good.
     
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    The Matrix and Minority Report are deliberately grainy and coloured and are bad examples for testing your screen (though great flicks IMHO). I watched R1 Spiderman over the break on Prog Scan and some of the aerial shots of New York looked breathtaking on my 42" Panny. My R2 Gladiator also looks the business. Two for you to try....
     
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    SmegFirk, it looks like you have the same problems that i'm having with the 963sa. I take it by dithering you mean a contouring/banding effect where there should be a smooth graduation in a large area of colour - say a blue sky or an underwater scene.
    Even though it was my first proper DVD player, i expected better and so have just borrowed a mates Sony NS305(a much cheaper machine) to compare with.
    The Sony has much less of the subtle 'dancing noise' in large areas of a single colour - backgrounds etc. I take it this is what is meant by grain? It also does not have the dithering/banding effect that the Philips shows on most of my discs.
    I am gonna test some more later and post my observations on another thread.
     
  8. Paul D

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    As said, both the Matrix and Minority Report are both very grainy films.
    In fact whilst watching Minority Report, i thought my projector had developed a fault!
    In some scenes, the black level seemed to be dark blue and looked like the backgrounds shots were raining.
    It's just the way both films are shot.
    Any banding will be down to your DVD players decoding, as the Panny Plasmas don't normally suffer this.
    I did think my set was faulty when it suddenly started having banding problems on light scenes, but it turn out to be light dust on the screen!. :suicide:
    However, maybe these films just highlight the sharpness of your setup!
     
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    just a thought.

    have you tried reducing contrast/brightness settings.
    also have you some sort of digital noise reduction enabled
    if so disable it.

    on my pioneer there is a 'power mode' feature.
    this basically decides how hard those plazy's are being driven.

    i have mine set to the lowest setting.
    to high a setting and i see 'grain' really badly.

    rembember the plazy market is huge in the business world.
    airports, conferences etc.
    designed where light levels are extremely high.

    in our living rooms we dont have such high levels of light.

    hence why the least power setting suits best.
    (a fair number of us seem to buy the industrial version of plazy's as opposed to the domestic designed tuner versions. not sure what type you have)

    worth considering...............................
     
  10. Party Animal

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    I can also report never seen a bad DVD on my Pioneer 530/42" Panny
    and to be honest the 530 aint the best DVD Player around.
     

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