Just received the latest NTL download/update (Manchester area) and I couldn't believe the difference in pic quality. It's EXCELLENT. Pin sharp, crystal clear, seems to be more 'dynamic' and the menus are much easier to read than the previous blue translucent ones. WELL IMPRESSED. Makes up for the annoying changes like Channel numbers, Favourites, all channels visible and no yellow subtitles button. Although my second stb locked up while downloading and is now completely locked. Engineer's coming tomorrow. Asked for a 4000 model as I believe these work with Pronto Remotes.