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  1. snerkler

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    I've recently taken some pics of a tiger and, due to previous trauma, she is a bit cross eyed. Whilst I don't want to change this on my computer as it is her character I am thinking about maybe printing a couple of pics for display purposes and for this was wondering if the powers of photoshop would allow me to 'put her eyes straight'? If so can anyone advise me how to do this please. I would rather learn to do this for myself as I will 'play about' with a few.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

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    If you could find another pic of another tiger who's eyes you like you could, by using a new layer and mask, merge/blend the 2 pics would be one way. After seeing a YouTube vid where this was done, all be it with a person and the 2 photos were of the same person (one pic with eyes opened and one with eyes closed), I had a play with a couple of pics and it was fairly straight forward.

    Or maybe duplicate the layer and just move the eye balls around to where you want them, guessing you would have to use the clone stamp to add the whites of the eyes where they are currently covered with the eye balls.

    I'm sure GC could explain it better and in more detail.
     
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    Thanks. My problem with replacing one thing with another is making it look like it belongs rather than stuck on :confused:
     
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    Ok no expert here but...when I've had a play around it's the % and flow of the brush on the layer mask that I found helped to blend the 2 layers together. The good thing is if you do it on a copy of the original and mess it up you can just start again and try and remember what you learnt by your mistakes on the previous one(s).
     
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    Show off lol ;)

    That's plain freaky :laugh: Can you share the secret please?
     
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    The way I did it was to start with the background layer and roughly select the area around one eye and copy it, create a blank layer and paste the eye on to it. Then use the move tool to move the fake eye to the position you want. Next attach a layer mask to the fake eye layer and then just paint on the layer mask so that just the pupil/iris show through. Do the same for the other eye. Flatten the image and clone any weird bits out.
     
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    Thanks very much, Ill see how I get on. Might be a good idea to watch my layer and masks tutorials first as I don't even know how to create a blank layer :blush: ;)
     
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    :lesson:
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    Thanks, just need to figure out how to do the rest now ;) Sure it'll make more sense when I've got PS open in front of me ;)
     
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    Had a quick go, managed to do one eye but then tried to do the other eye and it moved the other one. Guessing you need to do a separate layer for each eye? Also, once I moved to another layer and back to the eye layer I couldn't figure out how to reselect it to move it again :facepalm: Willhave another go tomorrow when I have more time :)
     
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    To use GC's example again, just make sure you're on the right layer for the correct eye (1) and use the move tool (2). ;)

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    I did, but now I see he did create a new layer for each eye :facepalm:
     
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    OK so I"ve managed this, thanks for the advice. Will have another go to see if I can make it any better. One thing that I'm struggling with is when I move the selection it sometimes snaps into position rather than letting me move it where I want. How do I stop this 'snapping' action?

    Ignore, just found out holding cmd stops it ;)
     
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    you can turn off snap globally by hitting shift cmd ; or by menu drop down under view, also via drop down it's possible to filter the type of snap to options.

    GC's tip of the day. Use the keyboard arrow keys to move objects by a single pixel at a time.
     
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    OK, so here's before and after. Comments/critique appreciated. Still looks very slightly strange/cross eyed to me :confused:

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    Looks like the left eye is the problem, seems you've moved the whole eye across but still showing the position of the original eyes pupil. Now shift the pupil across or clone it to the correct place.
     
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    Both pupils have been moved, they were both touching the inside in the original :confused: Which one is wrong, her left or left as we look at it?
     
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    Her left. Second viewing looks like you've kind of elongated the eye and the pupil doesn't sit in the centre of it.
     
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    Got ya, thanks.
     
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    Latest attempt

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    I think that's pretty much there. There needs to be a slight inward gaze to emphasize the closeness of the the viewing position. :smashin:
     
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    That latest looks really good - though personally I much prefer the original given the backstory about the cub etc. and that's what I'd be wanting on my wall as a memory....
     
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    From Clarence to Tony in 5 minutes. Nice. ;)
     
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    I know what you mean, and I'm torn tbh. It just freaks me out a bit if I look at it too long :(
     
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    Thanks very much for the help (and everyone else), another technique I've learnt in PS :clap:
     
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    Nice one Snerks!

    I'm a complete PS novice, can do the odd bit (although I only have PSE). One thing that, for some unknown reason, has made a really big difference to how well I get along with the software is a tablet.

    I got some cheap Huion 610 Pro for about £60 from Amazon- it got good reviews so took a punt. Now PS just seems to make more sense somehow- difficult to explain. I'm trying things that I simply couldn't be bothered with before when I just had the mouse.

    I'm sure there're very good reasons why the pro's use the Wacom Intuos tablets, but these are seriously expensive for a similar size, and I'm sure overkill for my occasional use.

    Downloaded Tux Paint, which is designed to be easy to use for young children, and my little lad thinks it's magic with the tablet! Maybe I should stick to that too :)

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    I don't have kids, but that looks like fun :laugh:
     
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    My lad thinks so :)

    You got a tablet?
     
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    Only an iPad ;) I tend to process on a laptop sat on the settee in front of the TV tbh so nowhere to use a tablet :blush: Would love a 5k iMac but that's not going to happen any time soon ;)
     

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