blackstone
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Just starting out and as you can see I don't know the difference between the two. Is elements a cut down version of photoshop ?
blackstone said:Just starting out and as you can see I don't know the difference between the two. Is elements a cut down version of photoshop ?
Depends what you want to do .If you have money to burn and are experienced in image editing get 7. If neither, then elements would probably do all you need. Get it on ebay.blackstone said:Just starting out and as you can see I don't know the difference between the two. Is elements a cut down version of photoshop ?
blackstone said:Thanks for all that info. I am new to digital photography and high on the agenda is to seek out membership of a camera club. I have an olympus mju 410 and guess that for 7x5 shots it should be adequate and perhapse with some photo editing I can improve the images. Apologies for any offence to more expert users.
Johndm said:I have Elements 2 (bundled with camera), and CS.
I only use CS if I shoot in RAW. When using jpeg for what I need, Elements is fine.
My normal jpeg 'Workflow' as below, and only if required. USM at the end will always be needed.
JayCee said:Can someone tell me in simple terms what "Unsharp Mask" is and what it does to the pics?
Reading a few of the posts on here I see it gets mentioned quite a lot.
Having recently got myself an EOS350D (which I haven't really used a lot yet due to the poor weather up here in Lanarkshire) I installed Google's "Picasa 2" but like the poster of this thread I'm thinking of getting "Elements 4"
Johndm said:Far too complex to go into detail.....
But ALL pics from DSLR's/Compacts will require differing amounts of Unsharp Mask or USM (most compacts will sharpen by default) depending on what you want to do with the pics...ie just view full size, print or upload to the www.........
Load a pic up in PS, apply Unsharp Mask at 500% .2 radius 0 threshold, and you'll see what happens.....
JayCee said:Thanks John, I don't have PS.
Would it be possible for you (or anyone else) to upload two pics here...1 with and 1 without USM and point out to me the differences?
Take a look at the link below and see what you think. Despite not being free like the GIMP or Picasa I rather think Money spent on Photoshop Elements is money well spent . Infact ,I use it virtually everyday having aquired a 350D as well, in April and just shooting awayJayCee said:Can someone tell me in simple terms what "Unsharp Mask" is and what it does to the pics?
Reading a few of the posts on here I see it gets mentioned quite a lot.
Having recently got myself an EOS350D (which I haven't really used a lot yet due to the poor weather up here in Lanarkshire) I installed Google's "Picasa 2" but like the poster of this thread I'm thinking of getting "Elements 4"
Johndm said:First pic just resized to 800 wide...
Second resized to 800 wide, one pass of USM applied....
See?....
Thanks Johndm, has a poll been conducted before re workflow.Johndm said:I have Elements 2 (bundled with camera), and CS.
I only use CS if I shoot in RAW. When using jpeg for what I need, Elements is fine.
My normal jpeg 'Workflow' as below, and only if required. USM at the end will always be needed.
1. Rotate if unlevel
2. Crop to remove borders/re-compose subject.
3. Resize if required, ie reduce to 1024 x XXX for www.
4. Check/adjust hue/saturation.
5. Check/adjust brightness/contrast.
6. Clone tool to remove dust spots.
7. One or two passes of Unsharp Mask (USM)
Only takes 2 or 3 mins per picture when you get the hang of it...
DON'T FORGET to work on copies of your pics....ALWAYS back up before you play.....
JayCee said:Thanks John,
Maybe it's my 56yr old eyes but I don't see a lot of difference...the second pic with the USM looks slightly sharper...the decals on the chopper body look a little clearer to me.
Maybe it's my monitor......a 3yr old HP 15" TFT resolution set to 1024x768, don't get me wrong the pic on it looks fine, nice and contrasty but would I be right in saying you guys prefer crt for digital work?
blackstone said:Thanks Johndm, has a poll been conducted before re workflow.