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    Hi peeps,

    I know sooner or later I will have to buy a laptop to be able to work on pictures on the road. There is no escaping it I think. I am away for 2 weeks this summer and seriously thinking about buying one before. What else to do on holiday than work ;) If not for this summer, then definitely in future I will need one anyway.

    It will have to be able to run Photoshop quite well, other than that the most important thing for me is the screen. Here are my thoughts about the screen:

    "For me 4K is not important. It could be lower resolution than that (Between 4K and 1080p), but what I would like to see is at least 17", full Adobe RGB coverage, full IPS, matte screen, LED backlit. I don't care so much about thickness and weight of the laptop"

    So colour reproduction, quality matte screen, resolution, gamut, are all very important for me.

    Other than that a good processor, 8 to 16gb of RAM, not too bad GPU. Just enough to be able to run Photoshop well without any major problems.

    I know Macbook Pro would probably be my best choice, but the bang to buck ratio is really hard to swallow for me. I am still considering it, but it might be out of my price range.

    Talking about price range, the less the better, as the laptop will sit unused for most of the year, but I am open to suggestions.

    If you see a laptop that could fit in this description, please do post here. Thanks a bunch
     
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    I use the latest MBP and think it's fantastic, however AFAIK the largest is 15" and it's not full adobe RGB (it's wider than sRGB, is it p3?). I don't think it's available with a matt screen anymore either but not 100% sure. I think you're going to have to look at Windows based laptops if they're your requirements, but whether there's any on the market I'm not sure. I think you might struggle to find one with adobe RGB tbh.
     
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    I hope that is not the case, as IPS screens have really went down in price in last few years. MCP are industry standard, but I am not there yet financially to be able to spend 2k on a laptop that would sit unused for 50 weeks of the year.
     
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    Appears I was wrong, check out the Dell XPS 15. Not sure if they do a 17 though
    Best Laptops for Photo Editing - ExtremeTech
     
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    That is something I have not thought about TBH. Custom built laptop might actually be the only way to get what I want. I don't see a screen like I would want on their website, but I might give them a call to see what other options do they have. Thanks a lot :)

    I couldn't see the 17" option on their website, but the price for that screen is a bit eyewatering. Close to MBP prices

    http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/cty/pdp/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop/cnx97007
     
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    Well you can't expect top quality for rock bottom prices ;) :p
     
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    Agreed. Hence I am starting to think, is this really worth pursuing. Maybe I should just enjoy the holiday instead of trying hard to keep working. Especially that the plan was just to do a few hours of work every evening. I really need to do some thinking on this.

    My initial thinking was that I don't need a gaming spec laptop, I just need an average laptop with a very good screen, so maybe the price won't be that bad. But the problem seems to be that I am really the only one (or one of very small number) with needs like that, hence the choices are limited and the prices very high. Most people either don't care about the screen in their laptops at all, or even if they do, they just want a higher resolution or faster panel for gaming. Colour reproduction, gamut and screen technology are a niche requirements.
     
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    Yeah I thought I was anal with fancy screens etc but you take it to a new level ;) :p
     
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    Well, to my defence, I make money on using them :)
     
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    You could look at the Dell Inspiron 17" Laptops with the UHD Screens. Around a grand they could fit your needs. I'd steer clear of macbooks for Pro work. They used to offer very good value for money (I have had 2 macbook pros) but now I feel they are designed for hipsters who want style over substance (I know that this will incense the apple fanbois who will issue a fatois on my head).
     
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    The reason I chose PC Specialist, was I use my pictures & videos to produce AV shows which need a good spec graphics card to take care of animation. Since I suggested them I tried a trial build to my spec' the basic price went from £650ish on the 17inch version to over £1400 with all my bells & whistles. What I like about them is the service & when building your quote, they tell you before you plunge if it will be OK.
     
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    @stearman65 Thanks for that. I feel like the spec I can save money on is the GPU, I don't really need a gaming level of GPU performance. And GPU's tend to be expensive.

    I wish there was a little bit more info on the screens on their website though. I might give them a call to discuss my options.

    @mushii It looks like either Dell or custom built laptop would be my two best options. MBP's are just too expensive for me and purchase like that would not make sense from a business point of view. Maybe further down the line.
     
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    @stearman65 Out of curiousity, and I apologise if you have already mentioned it, which screen out of their options have you went with?
     
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    If you mean PC Specialists, this link should take you to my spec I created on their site.
    PCSPECIALIST - Configure the OptimusVIII 17 to your ideal requirements.
    Off to Holland later this morning so will be out of internet access for 10 days. Good luck with deciding what to get.
     
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    If you are considering using PC Specialists check out the other custom laptop sellers like Scan.co.uk, Cyberpower, eurocom etc... you may (or may not) be able to save a few quid, at the end of the day they will all be the same as they are clevo resellers and all builds will be based on the same selection of chassis even if each company gives them a fancy name.


    cheers
     
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    If you’re looking at Dell then keep an eye on their outlet listings. Mostly unimpressive machines but sometimes you get an absolute bargain. Watch out for vat and delivery charges.
    My last 3 laptops and 3 desktops have all come from there.

    Back a good few years we used to hire in top spec MacBook pros for presentation work at big sales conferences etc. It was expensive but you always got the latest spec and full support. Worth it for a paid gig where it’s essential everything runs right. Probably not worth it to fill in a couple of hours in the evening.
     
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    It has actually crossed my mind to hire one, but I thought it would be too expensive. Especially that it is 2 weeks, not just a weekend. I might as well put those money towards buying my own a laptop instead.

    When you say Dell outlet, do you mean Ebay or do you have a specific website in mind?
     
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    We used hire because it was cheaper to us than buying show equipment and having it sit unused tying up capital and depreciating in a cupboard for most of the time.

    Dell's site does loads of wacky redirects but start with http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet and follow the links and you'll get there.
    The inventory is refreshed periodically, sometimes several times a day so you just need to keep an eye on it and be prepared to act quickly if you see a bargain. My last laptop was £850 new but I paid £350 all in ;) It was a discontinued and they were selling through the end of line a few units at a time.
    The stock is a mix of refurbished models with minor damage, customer returns and cancelled orders - as lots of Dell stuff is built on demand to a customer order.
     
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    Thank you :) I'll keep an eye on it
     
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    I'm not sure I've done the right thing but I just ordered one from Dell outlet. Spent much more than I wanted. It is not XPS but Inspiron but has a 4k IPS screen. Only 15" too. Worst case scenario I will send it back
     
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    There is something I don't understand in the description. Screen is listed there with its details:
    15.6 4K Ultra HD (3840x2160) IPS Truelife LED-Backlit Narrow Border Touch Display

    but then there is also this

    LCD Back Cover : Platinum Silver UHD Touch Screen with HD camera

    It would mean there is another screen on the back cover. I've not seen anything like that on a laptop before. That cannot be right
     
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    Do you have a link?
     
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    No. It was on the outlet, so when I ordered it, it disappeard from there.
     
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    It's not another screen. It's just the back cover which houses the screen and HD camera. It's an odd way of describing it though. I guess it must be for replacement purposes
     
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    Here is the spec from my email

    Inspiron 15 - 7570 Windows 10 Home
    LCD Back Cover : Platinum Silver UHD Touch Screen with HD camera
    Label
    Primary 4-cell 56W/HR Integrated Battery
    Shipping
    Intel 7265AC + BT4.2 [802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.2, Dual Band 2.4&5GHz, 2x2]
    Shipping Material
    16GB (1x16GB) 2400MHz DDR4 Non-ECC
    15.6 4K Ultra HD (3840x2160) IPS Truelife LED-Backlit Narrow Border Touch Display
    Info Mod
    Info Mod
    65W AC Adapter
    Label
    Service Software
    Label
    Software
    Info Mod
    Info Mod
    Info Mod
    512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive
    Software
    Software
    Software
    Software
    Placemats
    Software
    Software
    Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U (Quad Core, up to 4.00 GHz, 8MB Cache, 15W)
    Windows 10 Home (64bit)
    Power Cord : 250V
    Label
    Service Software
    Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Backlit Keyboard
    4GB NVIDIA GeForce 940MX

    The GPU is pretty poor and I'm not sure how it will handle 4k. Anything else I missed?
     
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    I thought that would be the case.

    How cool would be another small Always On display, where the logo usually is, showing you the notifications, the logo and housing fingerprint reader for unlocking the laptop. You heard it here first folks ;)
     
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    I don't think the GPU is that important for 4k picture or video editing, more for gaming. Did you find out how much of the Adobe RGB colour space the screen covers?
     
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    What's wrong with the GPU, 4GB sounds decent to me but then I don't profess to know much abut these things. Can't see anything from the description about colour gamut there?
     

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