Photography has ruined me

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  1. =adrian=

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    Arrrggghh! I can't see beauty in photos anymore, I only concentrate on technicalities.
     
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    I know that feeling....
     
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    Welcome to my world ;)
     
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    may be the images you are looking at aren't beautiful enough for you.
     
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    Hmmm, clearly something wrong with you if you can't see beauty in those :devil: :p
     
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    I agree. All I think about when I look at them is how they were created, what's needed to recreate, etc.

    I can't find any feelings or excitement in me when I look at them.
     
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    Hmmm, that's a shame. I'm like that with my own pics, but not others. I do still look at the technical merit, but can still appreciate the picture. Of course, if the technical aspect is clearly awful I do instantly dismiss the picture ;)
     
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    I'm a bit like that but I do look at shots as images first and if I like them I then get my Photo-Nerd hat out....
     
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    So you were 'inspired' by the images then....? You don' t have to having a jaw dropping experience when looking at them, but sounds alot more than just the technical side of photography.

    I think you're being to hard on yourself. :)
     
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    Have any of you lot seen McCullin on Netflix? Id like to think that will bring out your feelings.
     
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    Nope
     
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    Worth a watch, if you havent got a sub I think they do a 1 month free trial.
     
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    Hmm "inspired" is one word, "critical" is another.

    I find myself not looking at photo subjects anymore, I tend to concentrate on the technical side, ie exposure, composition, difficulty, colour accuracy, overall impact, etc.

    I have noticed this some time ago already, especially when viewing photos with my missus. What is a "brilliant" photo for her, is "poor" for me. And vice versa. The reason is that she sees it as a photo, an image showing a subject in some kind of background, while all I see is lines, numbers and interactions.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not a robot. There are images that can clearly inflict some kind of emotions in me, but most of them are just frames filled with colours and my brain is interpreting them in purely technical aspects.

    When I first clicked on the link I posted, my thought were among the lines of "composite", "composite", "meh", "overdone", "too much clarity", "fake"... and I just know this is wrong.

    Do I need a break from photography? Or am I just over-critical?
     
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    Maybe you are "The One" and just see photography like this

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    Maybe I'm lucky ... I just look at photos, either my own or others, as photos first.... well thats it really. I either like them or not. Only if asked do I look at them critically......
     
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    Think my daughter has a sub but finding the time to view is the real problem...
     
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    ...you mean you don't ? :eek:
     
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    I like how he feels the need to explain why he has done a little bit more PPing :) Not something I would be bothered about really. I do as much PPing as I feel is needed. Sometimes it is 5 min job, sometimes it is 5 hours. Never felt the need to apologise for it though.

    The photo did however surprised me a bit. I thought it is a composite of two shots (fish / background) when I first saw it.

    I do like the technique he used for darkening though. I would have tried to do it on Curves adjustment layer instead, probably easier. However, without trying it myself I am not sure if the effect would be the same.

    Overall good read, very nice unusual photo and a great find. Thanks Jim.

    Going back to the subject of this thread. Once I get my car back I want to go for a sunrise / sunset trip again. I already had about a month without touching the camera. It is time to go back to it and no point dwelling anymore :)
     
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    And get back to just shooting pictures using your experience to get the basics right as best you can in camera...... then enjoy the slideshow.......
     
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    I used to think like that couple of years ago and I also remember asking a good photographer on FB to post Exif data on shots. Now, I find that request silly in most cases.

    I am happy that I got out of that(almost :confused:). And one reason was seeing pictures that convey way more than the technical merits essentially the story, emotions and drama in a picture.
     
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    I find EXIF extremely useful as a learning tool, I'm not at that stage yet where I'm happy enough with my pics ;) :p
     
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    I do look at EXIF as well and they are very useful for learning and learning never ends, but not to that extent anymore and my photography also hasn't gone to that level yet :laugh:.

    What I am trying to say is the thing that worked better for me is when seeing a good image, trying to figure out the composition, angle and story elements more than technical aspects. I am findining it better that way and learning.

    For technical aspects, after some time it is not so difficult to see a picture and guess the technical aspects to a reasonable degree.
     
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    Following on from this I'm finding more and more that I'm extremely critical of my shots and think they're complete rubbish when I've first processed them, then after a few days/weeks start to realise that I do actually quite like them :rolleyes:
     
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    It takes me a long time to be happy with my shots, some do surprise me when lots of people start liking them. My main issue is that I need to get out of Oxford more to break the rut I'm currently in. As far as the technical side goes ? You can get too caught up in it and forget the magic of photography i.e. capturing a slice of time that will not likely be repeated in the same way again.
     
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    I had that 'epiphany' this week actually. I was so blinded by the technical side that that's all I was interested in when I took the shots of the cycle race I posted. I got chatting to another tog whilst there and we exchanged flickr details and I was impressed with how his shots told the story of the event far more than mine, even though some of his shots might not have been technically as good. Really did make me take notice and I think I will become better for it.
     
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    Is pixel peeping or focusing on the technical side of a image borne out of digital photography? Or did people back in the day of using film suffer similar limitations and not see the 'story'?

    Digital photography is more technology based (its practically a small computer with a light sensor) so does that attracts more foucs on 'how it works' which in turn effects peoples perspective on what is produced?
     
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    Interesting question. I wasn't really into photography in the film days so my film cameras were point and shoot, and as long as it didn't come back with the 'bad exposure' sticker on it I was happy :laugh:

    TBH I only pixel peep when a) I'm testing a lens out, or b) checking focus. It's the rest of the technical side that I get 'haunted' by, so I guess I'd have been the same in the film era. Probably worse actually as processing was far more difficult/technical back then :eek:
     

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