Hi everyone this is my first message having just joined the forum. I have read alot of bad comments about the Phillips DVDR 70 on the forum and wanted to post a message saying they are not all bad. I was stupid enough to pay £400 when they came out, a bit sad since amazon do them now for £159. Since I bought it I have never had a problem with it at all ,best picture and sound through a 36 inch telly and surround speakers. The best part is the machine plays anything I put in it whether cheap DVD-r or anything else and the +r recordings play in any other machine I,ve tried even if they dont support the playing of recordable discs. In the end they are not all bad.