Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by forrestgump, Jun 26, 2004.
anyone got one of these, i have seen 1 on e-bay recently and wondered if they are any good
You would be ill advised to get it IMHO. The Philips 880/890 series of DVD recorders had near a 100% failure rate. To be fair Philips ARE repairing them as they break but whether they would honour that for a second hand machine (and an old one at that) is questionable.
There is also the bigger issue that the recorder itself doesn't really offer much: there are no editting features as such (only an inaccurate marker system), not timeslip or playlists and recording quality is inferior to virtually all of the current range of DVD recorders of whatever format.
If your looking for a cheap DVD recorder (a quality model) then look at the following models (all around £200):
- Panasonic E55
- Philips DVDR70
- Pioneer 220
- JVC DMR10
The Philips model has the same limitations as the 880 (but with better PQ), i.e. no timeslip, no editting, no playlists etc. However it's disks will play on most DVD players.
The Panasonic model is excellent but do note it's re-useable media is DVD-RAM which has loads of features but doesn't play in many DVD players. You also have the option of recording on DVD-R which is THE most compatible DVDR format but lacks any editting features.
The Pioneer is a good choice. It uses DVD-RW as it's re-writebale media which has two modes: VR Mode where you get loads of features (editting, Timeslip etc) but is largely incompatible or Video Mode which is very compatible but with few features. Like the Panny the Pioneer also allows you to record to DVD-R which is THE most compatible DVDR format.
The JVC is an excellent machine (multi-format too) and is ideal if you just want to record "normal" TV through the aerial but not so good if you want to record from Sky (as it has no RGB in). Records to DVD-RAM, DVD-RW and DVD-R.
So you can clearly see which DVD recorder to get depends on how you want to use it. If you want you day to day recordings to play on other DVD players then look at the Pioneer or Philips models - of which the Pioneer is the much better choice IMHO. If you not worried about playing day to day stuff on other DVD players then consider the Panasonic or Pioneer (of which the former is better IMHO). If you want either of these options but are more concerned about a HQ DVD player then the JVC is a good option.
thanks for that my man, I would mostly use it to record off sky digital to give to my dad to play back on his dvd player so is the pioneer the best IYO?
Yes the Pioneer 220 would seem to be your best choice. The reasoning behind this is because:
- it has RGB input so allows you to make the best quality recordings
- records to DVD-RW which is the most compatible re-recordable DVD format (provided you use Video mode)
- it has other features such as VR Mode and Timeslip which will 'add' to your TV experience by allowing you to, e.g. pause live TV
- it is available at a competitive price
Other options (all which can record to DVD-RW) would be:
- Sony GX3 (good machine but still very expensive for what it is, i.e. less features than the 220 and £100 more)
- Toshiba DR2 (on the verge of being released and so is currently unreviewed but, providing no major shift from their previous DVD recorders, will probably turn out to offer better DVD playback than the Pioneer)
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