Druggy who killed himself or tortured soul? Most people will say the typical druggy who breaks into you're house and steals your XBox to sell for £5 for a wrap of smack deserve to die of an overdose. I have said before flood the market with pure heroin and wipe out most of them. I have had motorcycles stolen and have said it would make me feel better if whoever had stolen it (and trashed it) if they had died on it. No doubt a lot of us will be saying the scum deserve it. What changes is if you are personally affected by it. I have had relatives who have drunk themselves to death. I worked with someone whos son was struggling with drugs and had an ex next door neighbour, whos son died due to drug abuse. They found him on the kitchen floor and his insides had dropped out his arse. They would have a different view on it than others not affected. But I have just buried a very good friend who saved my life, I was a pallbearer. He was 50 and as fit as a fiddle. Not an ounce of fat. We drove all over europe together on bikes. Yet he dies of a virus that affected his heart and brain. He leaves a wife and 2 sons. He never took heroin, he never robbed anyone, he never did wrong to anybody. Hoffman took drugs and died, at the moment I have no sympathy for him. I do however feel for his family. If Hoffman was not a wealthy actor who could afford his drugs, would he be breaking into New York apartments to steal an XBox for his next fix? Would we care or even know if he died.? Why do we have sympathy for someone we have never met but have watched him on film? Why do we make excuses for wealthy actors that get depressed and kill themselves when ordinary folk struggle on with their lives on a minimum wage with debilitating illnesses. Joplin, Hendrix, Morrison, Belushi etc etc etc Sorry to be a bit depressing but thats me at the moment. I have bigger things to worry about than dead actors. Not posted on the Hoffman thread as somewhat off topic and not necessarily about him. Bit of a ramble but I feel better now.