Apologies for the delay and any confusion with our communication – we have been in detailed discussions with our engineering team and an outside technical partner. This has been an ongoing process, so we have not been in a position to give a definitive answer.
We can now tell you that the single chip Philips 2021 OLED TVs – OLED 806 etc – can currently display 4K 120Hz content in full resolution and will be updated in 2022 to be able to display 4k 120Hz VRR content in full resolution
With regards to the OLED+936/986 - as our most premium sets - we have selected a special twin chip picture processing engine to guarantee the absolute best picture quality performance.
Our most critical decision was whether our most premium sets should be twin chip without 4K 120Hz VRR full resolution or single chip with 4K 120HZ VRR and we believe – given the extremely limited availability of genuine 4k 120Hz VRR content - that the PQ benefits of the twin chip surpass the ability to display 4K 120Hz in full resolution.
As a result, the OLED+936/986 will not be able to handle 4K 120Hz VRR with full resolution- they will accept the signal but will downscale the content to half resolution.
We are currently still evaluating whether it will be possible for a twin chip solution with 4K 120HZ VRR at full resolution in future.
I'm reposting my question. I can't believe no one uses Miracast/WiDi/Screenshare (not Chromecast!). Any idea?Hi! I cannot find a way to use Miracast on my new 936. There is no app or setting and without them the TV seems to be able to connect through Chromecast only. I'd like to be able to use it as a second screen of a Windows PC. Is there a solution?
936 owner here.Hi all, has anyone with 936 come from a sonos soundbar, and if so how does it compare? Happy to sell the sonos if its similar.
Really can't decide between a c1 or phillips 806 or 936. Mainly used for ps5 and netflix/disney plus.
Like the better gaming from the c1, but think I will love the ambilght. Any thoughts?
It is for sure (and was the main reason for me to select Philips (65OLED936)), but beware of .022 and .026 FW updates which "destroy" its whole idea (I presume you've seen several threads here (Ambilight thread 1, Ambilight thread 2, Ambilight thread 3 - but just in case...)Ambilight is lovely and I wouldn't want a TV without it moving forward but...
Cheers for this. Just been having a little skim read of those threads. Could you PM me the link for the firmware downgrade please? I presume it's a copy to USB and then into the TV job?
Sure, the link is in your PM )Cheers for this. Just been having a little skim read of those threads. Could you PM me the link for the firmware downgrade please? I presume it's a copy to USB and then into the TV job?
Also... Does the downgrade remove any other functionality that may have been in the .026 update?
Dear @Philips TV PQ and fellow forum members,@Philips TV PQ I am cross posting this post from this forum here: Philips Ambilight TV, any way to make the Ambilight lights go off on black screen during scenes? as I am most dissatisfied with recent Amblight "improvements" to both the 65OLED935/12 and the 65OLED936/12.
I have written to my retailer asking for their assistance with this matter.
As my original purchase was the 65OLED935/12, which on arrival out-of-the-box, had an RTM Ambilight behaviour where ALL Follow Video modes would turn off completely, inline with the contrast of the OLED panel, the change or in Philips own words "improvement" implemented in FW: TPM191E_R.101.002.098.000 fundamentally changed this Ambilight behaviour and thus voided the products original RTM specification.
This fundamental Ambilight FW change on the 65OLED935/12 was rolled over to the 65OLED936/12 and was the out-of-the-box behaviour. However, FW: TPM211EA_R.001.001.233.026 has now fundamentally changed the Ambilight Follow Video modes on the 65OLED936/12, thus voiding this products original RTM specification.
I feel that it is wrong that a manufacturer can fundamentally change a products behaviour post RTM and/or post purchase, to the point where it voids the products original RTM design and functionality. I am happy for manufacturers to "improve" their products, but this MUST be done as an addition, not as a replacement for original RTM functionality.
I am currently waiting to hear back from my retailer before contacting UK Trading Standards about both these issues.
Cheers @AlexanderVS will follow all advice above. Yes, on 0.26.Sure, the link is in your PM )
Yes, you have to unzip the file and follow the steps from the User Manual.
Are you on .026?
In fact it is not the downgrade, this is a newer FW build (Jan 3, 2022) than .026 FW. I do not think it got any new bugs or cut functionality, but I suggest that you review the mentioned threads thoroughly before the upgrade.
I have checked with the development team. The Ambilight system not dimming sufficiently during black scenes is a recognised issue and we are planning to release a fix as part of a larger firmware update due in mid-Feb.
If I use the upgraded firmware (after reading the relevant threads previously shared) then yes.Hi, would you mind posting your findings after the upgrade? I’m thinking of it myself as the ambilight is now worthless since the new update.
I think this will be my play as I really like ambilight, and I don't use the sound due to my existing AV setup. Although according to Philips the picture quality will be not be as good without the dual chip solution.My most likely solution is to return the 936 and pick up the 807 when it is released, with a decent soundbar like the Sonos Arc.
A shame as I do really like the all in one design of my 936.
By sufficiently, I hope you mean returns to how it functioned when I purchased the tv.I have checked with the development team. The Ambilight system not dimming sufficiently during black scenes is a recognised issue and we are planning to release a fix as part of a larger firmware update due in mid-Feb.
Dear @Philips TV PQ,I have checked with the development team. The Ambilight system not dimming sufficiently during black scenes is a recognised issue and we are planning to release a fix as part of a larger firmware update due in mid-Feb.
There's an overall consensus in this forum I believe that Ambilight should at least offer the possibility to revert back to how it behaved at TV purchase time.
thank you for recognizing it, I personally own a 986 and its very distracting, also please notice we wish for the ambilight to actually go off on black scenes as it should rather than having a dim light, its important as having even a very dim light in a dark room totally destroys the idea of pitch black scenes.
The key point here is choice like it was originally. I’m still phased as to why only ONE option ‘game’ was to only feature this without light but the supposed outcry that people who strain to watch with the light off in parts has apparently made Philips remove the choice.I fully support all your requests for the ambilight to switch of in dark scenes, but please make it an option like what has been previously proposed as I like to have a continuous backlight so as to not strain my eyes, yet also enjoy the coloured ambilight effect.