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Monitor mode turns off all of the picture processing and effectively turns the set into a monitor.
At the moment the set will offer 4K 120Hz at fixed frame rates not VRR. I'm checking whether that will change and will report back.
 

MJeeves7

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Monitor mode turns off all of the picture processing and effectively turns the set into a monitor.
At the moment the set will offer 4K 120Hz at fixed frame rates not VRR. I'm checking whether that will change and will report back.
Thank you. Yes, please report back on this matter.
Thank you again!
 

RT1185

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@Philips TV PQ

Could you please confirm the main technical differences between the 936 and 806 models (apart from of course the B&W soundbar)? Things like peak brightness, chipset, PQ, etc. would be useful to understand for decision making.

Unfortunately, it seems if wanting a 77 inch screen size in OLED guise with Philips, the 806 is the only choice. Hence, the toss up and question above...unless there are plans to release a 77 inch version of the 936? 🙏
 

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The 936 has higher spec OLED panel with a 20% increase in peak light output. The 936 also has a more powerful twin chip version of P5 AI processor that adds machine sharpness and smart bit ehancement features into the AI functionality (see the feature above) and also allows for a more sophisticated anti-burnin feature. There are no plans for a 77" 936.
 

Cyberfreak

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We are the UK marketing team, so we have to check with the technical team for answers. The company is not aware of any issues with VRR, eARC or Dolby Vision on the 806 or 936 OLED TVs, you would need to give me specific problems. 23.976fps is a known issue that the Philips TV technical team are currently working on and will be resolved via a firmware update to be issued in the near future.
Hi,

on Xbox Series X it is not possible to use 120hz with VRR and Dolby Vision. Will this be fixed in a future update (for the 806) ?
 
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Thank you! That's fab.
So it is only the audio that is different between the two models?
Thank you again!
Yes, that's correct the 986 has very different sound system to the 936 - plus the design with the floor stand etc. PQ is the same. I should also clarify that the 936/986 panel has 20% higher light output than the 806. Sorry if that wasn't clear
 

AdtAdt57

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I was pleased to receive my 55OLED936 last Tuesday, after receiving a marketing email from Philips that linked to their website with a ‘buy from Richer Sounds’ link, really helpful as I’d kept asking I wanted one when available to update from my 2017 55POS9002…
After quite a bit of picture tuning I’m exceedingly impressed with HD, UHD HDR and Dolby Vision.

Odd issue with BBC iPlayer:
The TV had an update after install and I was pleased to see UHD HLG worked with the iPlayer…
… then on Saturday there was update TPM211EA_R.001.001.233.012.
After this update the iPlayer App had disappeared from the Home screen and when I searched for it and found the App the page said something like “this version is not compatible with your device“.
The good news is that I can still get into the iPlayer and UHD HLG still works, but I have to press ‘green’ or ‘red’ buttons while watching a BBC 1 or 2 programme and get back to its main menu…
any idea why it’s missing from the Home screen?
It‘s also not in the the Philips collection or when searching the Google store.
The iPlayer App is updating so this is only an inconvenience.
 

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Hi,

on Xbox Series X it is not possible to use 120hz with VRR and Dolby Vision. Will this be fixed in a future update (for the 806) ?
Hello,
TP Vision does not believe its possible to have 4K 120HZ VRR - at full frame rate - using the Mediatek MT5895 SOC. The option is either to use 4K 120 Hz at fixed frame rate via the Monitor mode or to use 4K 60Hz VRR - which shouldn't impact PQ as there is very little native 4K 120Hz content available.
Hope that helps.
 
These new Philips models certainly look very interesting. Provided they offer a good range of streaming service apps including: BBC iPlayer, itvHUB, All4, My5, Netflix, Prime Video, Disney, NOW and even Apple TV), either model will be on my list...
 

malctAN

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No BBC iPlayer for me since I am TV licence free, shame you can't delete the BBC iPlayer app
 
Out of interest... Do you access any 'linear' TV services via say, DVB-S/S2 or DVB-T/T2?
 

MikeyGold

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One thing I have been wondering is when it says it has dual chips, does each 936 / 986 have two Mediatek MT5895 SOCs or is it another custom SOC that there are two of?
 

MALANT

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One thing I have been wondering is when it says it has dual chips, does each 936 / 986 have two Mediatek MT5895 SOCs or is it another custom SOC that there are two of?
SoC's are an integration chip. They handle integration of CPU, memory, wifi, hdmi ect.
The MT5895 allows all the separate components to talk to each other
The duel chip relates to the P5 processor
Think of it like the graphics card in your PC
and the mediatek like the motherboard chipset
Managing all the attached features, WiFi, Bluetooth, hdmi, usb.
I believe the android smart features are also run on the mediatek chip.
 
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MikeyGold

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SoC's are an integration chip. They handle integration of CPU, memory, wifi, hdmi ect.
The MT5895 allows all the separate components to talk to each other
The duel chip relates to the P5 processor
Think of it like the graphics card in your PC
and the mediatek like the motherboard chipset
Managing all the attached features, WiFi, Bluetooth, hdmi, usb.
I believe the android smart features are also run on the mediatek chip.
Thank you MALANT, that makes perfect sense, it's like it the 936 / 986 have twice the number of GPU cores as the 706 / 806 / 856
 

MALANT

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Thank you MALANT, that makes perfect sense, it's like it the 936 / 986 have twice the number of GPU cores as the 706 / 806 / 856
Dont take my graphics card analogy literally.

I think the addition of a 2nd P5 was to accommodate the additional AI features that are exclusive to these models.
 

MikeyGold

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Dont take my graphics card analogy literally.

I think the addition of a 2nd P5 was to accommodate the additional AI features that are exclusive to these models.
Sure, though these days GPUs are more than just graphics processors! For me the more advanced logo detection is really desirable, my kids and lockdown have ruined my LG 2017 OLED with all the channel logos.
 

Manner2010

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SoC's are an integration chip. They handle integration of CPU, memory, wifi, hdmi ect.
The MT5895 allows all the separate components to talk to each other
The duel chip relates to the P5 processor
Think of it like the graphics card in your PC
and the mediatek like the motherboard chipset
Managing all the attached features, WiFi, Bluetooth, hdmi, usb.
I believe the android smart features are also run on the mediatek chip.
+++ P5 is not SOc mediatek. This is exactly the image processor.+
 

MALANT

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I have a question.

Having preordered the 65'' 936 (got a great price, no surprise to forum members)
Also ordered a Panasonic 820 4k blueray player to compliment

I see the blueray has a seperate audio HDMI port
And the 936 has an eARC port

Is it necessary to connect these ports together to receive DTS audio from the player to the TV and therebye sent to the B&W soundbar???

Dont have any knowlege of the DTS/DTSx/Dolbyatmos formats so some help explaining the setup needed would be helpful.
 
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AdtAdt57

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I have a question.

Having preordered the 65'' 936 (got a great price, no surprise to forum members)
Also ordered a Panasonic 820 4k blueray player to compliment

I see the blueray has a seperate audio HDMI port
And the 936 has an eARC port

Is it necessary to connect these ports together to receive DTS audio from the player to the TV and therebye sent to the B&W soundbar???

Dont have any knowlege of the DTS/DTSx formats so some help explaining the setup needed would be helpful.
It depends on the kit you have @MALANT

If just the 936 and Blu-ray then connect the latter to HDMI 1 or 2 and the TV will use sound and video coming from the Blu-ray to the TV via the one HDMI lead. No Need for ARC/eARC.

If you have a separate high end AV Amp, then that’s what the second audio HDMI socket on the Blu-ray should be for, so you can feed the TV with video using HDMI 1 or 2 and the sound goes straight to the AV Amp using the Audio HDMI. This means you don’t use the AV Amp as a video switch to the TV.

You only need ARC/eARC when you want sound from the TV to be sent back to a separate AV Amp or Soundbar - I think the B&W speakers in the 936 are probably better than most Soundbars…
 
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MALANT

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It depends on the kit you have @MALANT

If just the 936 and Blu-ray then connect the latter to HDMI 1 or 2 and the TV will use sound and video coming from the Blu-ray to the TV via the one HDMI lead. No Need for ARC/eARC.

If you have a separate high end AV Amp, then that’s what the second audio HDMI socket on the Blu-ray should be for, so you can feed the TV with video using HDMI 1 or 2 and the sound goes straight to the AV Amp using the Audio HDMI. This means you don’t use the AV Amp as a video switch to the TV.

You only need ARC/eARC when you want sound from the TV to be sent back to a separate AV Amp or Soundbar - I think the B&W speakers in the 936 are probably better than most Soundbars…
Thanks,
I had a feeling I was overthinking what should be a straightforward setup.
I will use hdmi 1 with an 8k hdmi cable (overkill) to connect the player to the TV.
Looking forward to seeing and hearing Bohemian rhapsody played through the B&W.
The extra Live aid footage should be really cool.
 

Widge

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I may return for the 48” 936 next year. I just grabbed a 8506 as I needed to replace a tv that has broken and couldn’t wait any longer, but it has got some fairly nasty vertical banding that just hasn’t faded and the view angles really don’t work for my front room. Still got my hopes for this as an aspirational TV and move the 8506 upstairs in the bedroom and sell on my old 6703.
 
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AdtAdt57

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As no one replied to my odd issue posted above #34 with the BBC iPlayer App disappearing from the Home screen, I presume this is just my 55OLED936?

Still running with TPM211EA_R.001.001.233.012 and I found this morning now I can no longer get into the iPlayer using the green/red buttons either. Searching for the App and I again get the display saying “Your device isn’t compatible with this version”.

I decided to use the reinstall tv function and I now have the iPlayer App back on my Home screen and it works fine again, complete with UHD/HLG programmes available…
… just need to reapply all my settings, again!

Still just me?
 

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